Ok
Just finish game with my UBER-ULTIMATE MAGE
I kill Divine with 3-4 magic missiles and Zandalor with 4-5 magic missiles
Killed soldiers with firewall
level 34

one question
I don"t understand ending
can someone explain me
I mean I free Ygerna,and then Lucius talk to me and after that I saw movie where Damian is still alive even if she is ressurected

Lol, did you read the last dialogue scene with Lucian? :P

Yes
but I still didn"t understand his points

Explanation given to us in the game:


Errors in the plot:

I too am confused. So the woman that guided and gave you the powers of a dragon knight was not Talana but Ygerna? She has that kind of amazing power? What of Talana then? Howl did the main character got sealed in that crystal in the blink of an eye? Is the Divine dead or alive? Ahhh, so many questions it hurts my head

That was indeed Ygerna, not Talana that gave you the gift - Dragon. No idea what`s up with Talana, i`m just guessing she`s still alive somewhere, it isnt proven that she`s dead since Lord Arbens ghost was haunting in the church cellars. If Talana would be long dead, then you wouldn`t have met Arbens ghost in the first place. You ended up traped in the Hall of Echoes together with Lucian, the Divine, who still is alive in fact.

Yeah, Ygerna, a human and just a daughter of Black Ring leader is... much more powerful than the Lord of Chaos itself, haha.

Yeah, this made me lol too, but oh well...

I don't understand what was up with Talana too. How the heck did Ygerna control a *Dragon Knight* (supposedly the most powerful creatures on earth after Dragons) from within the Hall of Echoes? Same goes for the crystal thingie... apparently it is so very easy to curtail a Dragon Knight (Damian didn't even know about it, lol).

Not to mention, what was up with Lovis? Did she control him too?

As for Damian, the Divine mentions that Ygerna living is Damian's invincibility... well I don't see the point... he was already nearly invincible anyway since he was the reincarnation of the Dark One.

Maybe one of the Larian writers could explain it a bit more here? (pretty please...)

Uhm, actually, Dragon Knights have been working for the Black Ring all along. If you remember from Divine Divinity, the very first Black Ring member you encountered was a Dragon Knight, later on you stumbled upon more Dragon Knights, that were out there to kill you. I don`t know about the "backstabbing" that was mentioned in Divinity 2, prolly nobody knew that Dragon Knights were on the Black Rings side. In fact, Lovis is a great example of how bad Dragon Knights were, if you learnt the truth about him.

That's not really what I was talking about.

If Talana were a simple traitor, the plot would make sense. But the thing is that Talana seemed to be controlled by Ygerna from within the Hall of Echoes... that seems a bit far-fetched.

Anyway, I, for one, liked the ending.

I think now that due to the Soul Forge between Damian & Ygerna, Ygerna maybe shared Damian's power and was able to speak to you from within the Hall of Echoes... let alone take over the body of a dying Dragon Knight.

Anybody has an idea why Damian Soul Forged his soul in the first place? Hi's suppose to be all powerful right? Why soul forged with a mere human? Wont that make him vulnerable? Don't tell me its the bullsh*t reason "to strengthen their love"...

To prevent Ygerna's death... but he was too late. If they had been soul forged before her head was severed from her body, she would've been invulnerable just as Damian... Damian being the Damned One incarnate and all.

I see. So with a soul forge Damian would share some of his power (Laiken was more powerful than the demon he was soul forged). What else bugs me is: Was Ygerna literally controlling the Dragon Knight or just manipulating/deceiving him and Zandalor?

deceiving and manipulating. She didn't move your cursor

But the game didn't offer you critical choices either. Whatever you do it always leads to the same result Thou I suppose your death could be considered alternative ending :P

The entire quest was hopeless -- if you die, Damian wins. If you lose, Damian wins. :p

More like, if you die - Damian wins, if you ressurect Ygerna - Ygerna & Damian win.

I never played Divine Divinity. Is there a connection between the stories? Someone mention that the Dragon Knights worked for the Black Ring?? In Divinity II after you become a dragon you were annihilating flying fortresses all by yourself. My question is: Was every Dragon Knight as powerful as the hero from Divinity II?? The end bosses of the game were Zandalor and the Divine. You beat them both (+ all of the guards)! Was that their true strength or they were "defective" being a memory xD

I may have been wrong about Dragon Knights, they were Dragon Riders in DD. However in Divinity 2, it is said that the one who killed the Divine was a Dragon Knight.
Lol at the last few sentences. I doubt it. They are all human, except Zandalor, whose race is wizard race, as said in DD.

If all Dragon Knights were as powerful as the player character at the end of the game, I can't even understand how Dragon Slayers ever managed to kill even one Dragon Knight...

It's a pity, actually, that there was no fight with Commander Rhode. She annoyed me endlessly.

Yes there is and you can read about it on the Divinity II website. [Click 'Game', then 'The Story'. It's in three parts.]

I loved Rhode. I wish there had been a romantical involvement. That would've been even more awesome.

Hmm... does she act differently toward the player if you're a male character?

I played as a female and she was quite hateful near the end. Lol.

Well, near the end, she is quite hateful, but I gotta love a strong-willed woman like that. I admired her steadfastness, really. Turns out she was right too. They should've let her kill me.

Nothing can kill you near the end of the game, and even so Damian would win anyway... since you're so powerful near the end, you're still theoretically "the only hope" of victory.

Rhode's just a mindless fanatic.

Nah. She was so fanatic because she felt betrayed that you were tainted by the dragon. And there's always hope. Just for your quest, they opened rifts that caused the downfall of Aleroth, and then by your doing, Damian was reunited with Ygerna. Things would look much less dark if you had remained a Dragon Slayer.

Besides... If Rhode killed Talana, I wouldn't really say she has no chance against me. Especially as love would stay my hand :p

I like the perspective given by the Elder dragon though. Things are fleeting. You may be locked away in the hall of echoes, but you're not truly dead yet. Perhaps there is a chance for you and the Divine after all, though the outlook is grim.

There's still hope.

Zandalor may yet figure it out.
And whatever happened to Maxos...

Yeah, when you encountered Rhode for the firs time as a DK even thou she sentence you to death, she returns the sword that Arben gave you. That was so cool xD But the game was too short for romantical involvement Anyway I'm glad she's still alive 'n kickin'. She has an unfinished business with the DK so the must meat again (and hopefully not kill each other)



Thanks Macbeth, I'll check it right away :)))

She probably gave back the sword because it was her own fault that you became a Dragon Knight in the first place and she felt guilty about it. If she had kept you more close, nothing would have happened (but it would make for not a very exciting game).

And so she failed her task again... she was too weak to do finish the job herself while you were still not powerful enough to be able to kill her (most likely). :P

By the end of the game, she would have no chance at all (like everyone else, save the Elder Dragon & Damian, perhaps).

She just left it up to the others because she knew, once she looked into your eyes, she could not have steeled herself to finish it.

I think she gave you the sword cause it was rightfully yours. And it was not her fault that you became a DK. She ordered you to stay behind in order to protect you, to stay safe in the village. A newly created not complete Slayer will definitely get toasted against a dragon. You disobeyed her others and Talana/Ygerna got you. She felt betrayed by that and got pissed which is understandable. And the fact that she didn't kill you herself near the Temple was cute :))) On your second meeting in Aleroth she's furry-ous (hot! xD). Well, not only did you betrayed her but you also killed her man and a true Dragon Slayer would rather sepuko than accept the dragon xD

well, i she really louses any chances to defet you when you hit around lvl 24 amybe 26. After all even at that time you are allredy a threat to Damian, any by the time you hit lvl 28 you can take down a entire stone fortress all by yourself,so preaty much your a one men army. Also it is entaerly her fault for you bekoming a DK, SHE is the one that left you in the villige without a proper dragon slayer teacher, after all you shold be in the academy still, and she took the sword from you, witch could frankly save your ass from teh evil dragon off doom, also she just seid "go and help some villigers" while she well knew that there are undead around the tower and frankly you would be proboly sent the clear them out, and if that was not enouf after they have hurt the dragon, and thought that she was dead instead of sending a dragon slayer to make shure you were ok and continiue your trening she desided to camp.....in front of the Maxos temple.....and she did not even celar the wey for you. Also it is your fault that moust of the criminals are dead and olmost all evil plots are broken in moust of the world....how can she be mad at you? you even got your own tower that you prayed from a necromansers heands!!!

Gameplay wise you can't fight ground monsters as a dragon. You encounter Slayers 26-27 lvl, She is the Slayer Commander so she should be higher, try going to Stone Flying Fortress at lvl 26. It shouldn't be easy fighting the fortress commander. Story wise she (and a few weak Slayers) wasted Talana (probably in her dragon form) so she must be tough Threat to Damian? Hardly... More like a nuisance. If he considered you a threat he would've destroyed you single-handedly in one of his "visits" :P Don't forget that those fortresses you destroyed were just a "small fraction" of his empire



Like she said in the beginning "the time is less than perfect" and she explains what the situation is. A dragon appeared and she has a few men with her. She can't spare any teachers for you but you should be OK for a day in the village right? The Slayer is not a kid so perhaps Rhode didn't think he needs a babysitter all the time :P But in order for the story to continue the Slayer (You) must s*rew up and go to the place marked on the map where the Slayer "shouldn't" go. That's why the Slayer (turned DK) doesn't have a proper replay to Rhode's question "What are you doing here?!" Btw you never did have a chance to use any of your weapons against Talana so Arben’s sword wouldn't make difference on the outcome



It's a game, It's suppose to be hard getting to the temple xD Not to mention she wasn't expecting you...




Ok, lets say you pick all the positive choices. Lets not forget that Damian turns his wrath and obliterates Broken Valley cause of you, All the outside people in Sentinel Island also died cause of you and a lot more innocent people will die in the near future cause of you (resurrecting Ygerna, making Damian invincible).Nevertheless Rhode doesn't know that. It's not like she's monitoring your every move or something xD All she knows is that a Slayer turned to a "Betrayer"

Man I didnt like the fact that you cant choose if you remain a Dragon Slayer or if you want to become a Dragon Knight, I think it would be better if we had a choice between the Dragon Slayers and the Knights.

I think that would've been interesting. I'm not sure how it could've been done with the way the story panned out... but then again, I'm not a story-writer. It does make for a compelling "what if..." though.