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A local newspaper had a photo of an "annoucement" by a terrorist group; in it it was stated that the "society of muslims" should be "happy" about this.

Fool, I thought, don't you see that you are forcefully trying to include those muslims against their will who are against terror ?

My personal belief is that only muslims can judge about this and say wwhether it is right or wrong. If they are against it, they should show it - in demonstrations, for example.

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@ Gal: What about the muslims that don't aprove to this? This feels like our discussion about the states, it's the bad pepole that shows and sets the standard of what everyone else thinks about them, and the good pepole have to live with this. And, as Jang said, it could be anyone who did this, IRA, some comunism/fashist extremists, some psyco, anyone really. Blameing the muslims like this is just not fair.


Dear friend, I'm not blaming the Muslims in general, you have to read every word more carefully before you decide to reply. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> I was talking about the Extremist Muslims. I have a lot of Muslim friends and they are NOT happy with the actions of the Al Quaida and the other terrorist attacks. But in every religion you have the extremists, it's just a matter of seeing where the limit is. You can't force someone to believe in some god, it has to come from the heart.

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As Nero already said (thank you Nero <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kissyou.gif" alt="" /> ) it was indeed a group of European Al Quaida terrorists that has claimed the attacks. And it is indeed something like the attacks in Madrid, how many innocent people have to die until they stop??
You know something else? I baked two cakes today and both failed because I was soo nervous that they were meant as a Thank you for the firemen and the volunteers <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shhh.gif" alt="" />



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@ Gal & Nero -> thanks for the heads-up. at the time of my previous post, there wasn't any news yet on whoever that may claim responsibility. i guess these poor excuse of human beings have yet again ruin the image of their beloved religion & people. maybe they never care in the first place.

but who was responsible for Madrid? nobody so far claim responsibility & i dare not point finger at any estremist group. it may even be local of origin.

@ Cleg -> sorry for the assumption, i recalled last time u did mention that u lived in the UK. also recalled that u once mentioned about visiting your mom in the states (NY?). sorry for the mixup, Cleg. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" />

@ Gal again -> ah, u're too nice! don't be too nervous. i'm sure they'll love your 'thank you' cakes. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Don't apologize for the mixup. Thank you for your concern.


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@ Janggut
I think the explosions in Madrid on the 11 th of march were first appointed to the ETA, but later the blame goes to the AL Qaida. Madrid Attacks
But I can be mistaken too, a girl can't know it all, can't she? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />



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Unfortunately it happened again. I'm thankful that there were almost no victims (only 1 injured).


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Same pattern again!...3 bombs on tube trains and one on a London Bus, a couple of them only the detonators went off...Thank the Lord for that.
I am going up to London in a couple of weeks on the train and my darling wife is pleading for me not to go....but it's to watch a Exeter City game, a must in my eyes. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />


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Just think of the martyrstate you will get in the club if you get killed watching one of their game <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />.

I wonder what the chance of you getting caught in one of these actions is <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />.

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I'm going to london on monday, but trains are safe "they claim" so if I never come back here and a train in london was bombed LOL not gonna happen if I see a terrorist I'll let him eat his detonators


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Please guys. Don't do that now, is a football game really worth risking your life? Did you ever thought of the fact that a football stadion is the perfect place to let a bomb explode? Because of the many people there and the majority will be too drunk to see the difference between a suspicious package and an ordinary backpack.
I hope, both of you, Spick and Dragh, will use your head and cancel that trip to London. Nothing can be that urgent that it's worth your lifes. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

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but trains are safe "they claim"

They claim that, but did they ever thought of it that this would happen? I don't think so. If you really want to go to London, please watch out and be very careful. Please???????



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They've caught one of the guys they thought didi it, and they've got pictures of the other three they think did it on the internet now. And I'm still curious what the chance is that something like that will happen. It's not Jerusalem after all.

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Did you ever thought of the fact that a football stadion is the perfect place to let a bomb explode?


People are currently getting worried about the "Welt-Jugendtag" soon here in Cologne. Thousangs of christian youths are expected ... let's pray that nothing will happen.



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@ Alrik
Oh yes, you are right, I wonder what country will be next. Because that there will be a country next in line, that is for sure, but the question is wich one?



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I will never give in to terrorism or let it change my life...It's off to London i go.
Yesterday the Police in London shot dead one of the suspects, 5 shots in the head did the trick,and now of coarse the police complaints authority are investigating this shooting!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/memad.gif" alt="" />


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That's what I read. And of chorse they are investigateing! They should be, to see if they acually had the right to shoot him. I think they will come to the conclution that he had, but still...

And Exter-some London team (whao were they meeting?) isn't exactlly the kind of game you place a bomb at. I'd go for Man U-Arsenal instead. Or England-Anyone.

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Well, what disturbs me is that I love running around with a rucksack full of things I need (weather clothes, for example). Now, I wouldn't want to be the next one to be shot ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />


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Well, what disturbs me is that I love running around with a rucksack full of things I need (weather clothes, for example). Now, I wouldn't want to be the next one to be shot ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />

That is what I was wondering too. I also love to hike around with a backpack, and who knows this guy that got shot, only shoplifted or something? I know that everyone in London want to see blood right now, and that is natural, but they have to keep in mind that London is a city full of backpack tourists and the police can't just shoot around. I hope the killers are found in a orderly way and that the tension will go away in London.

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I see that you are really wanting to go, so I hope you have fun and please be careful. We don't want to loose you here!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kissyou.gif" alt="" />

btw, did anyone heard about new bombing attacks in Egypt? Watch the news folks!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />



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Gal, that's exactly what terrorism is about, to strike fear into the crowd and shake it all up, they don't want ppl to die they want to put down the western economy, and religion. If we get scared, not go to work they have succeeded in their mission, the crash after 9/11 is what they intended, WORLD TRADE CENTER, what better place to strike to shake up the world economy.

I'm going and I'm not fearing an attack, extremists are everywhere, next bomb could blow in Paris, Brussels, Rotterdam.... you name it, place that globally matter, you can't avoid the terrorist threat.

Why do extremists such things? the promise of heaven, the promise of wealth for the family... take those down and you'll stop terrorism, no-one blows himself up if nobody gains anything out of it. The families should pay for what damage, suffering is caused because they profit most from it.

If this sounds harsh, the world is a harsh place, no terrorist will stop me from doing things I like, working or whatever. The chance I get blown up is neglectable, even going to London. I'm not that unlucky.


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This is a little late i know...
My parents were overseas (in Chislehurst with my family there) when this all happened. They were just leaving the house to go into London when the reports came in. They did e-mail me at work to let me know they were fine - but - wow! Did this ever hit home for me. With my cousin stuck there (he works in London) and one cousin a nurse, another an EMT...it was really scary to know that a lot of my family memebers could have been effected and/or hurt by this.
It is really scary to think people have to live in fear becasue of some crazy terrorists!
My parents flew out the next day, with no delays...they were happy to get back to Canada...i am sure soon enough something will happen here as well...

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Long time no see Carrie, welcome backish


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