Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - General Random items or memorable ones?

Totally agree. But, I don't think not having fixed loot contradicts this.

I guess I take my cue from old D&D sessions (DM made, not modules you bought). You just never knew what you would find. For me, that's part of the exportation element of an RPG

I like the weapon skills, makes the physical damage dealers a little more interactive. As long as it doesn't go overboard.

I still think having a toggle for low loot is the most pragmatic option. If loot is made sparse, there will be complaints, just as there complaints for loot being too abundant.

Having modded DOS2, and being familiar with how it is laid out under the hood, it is such an easy thing to do. I wouldn't be opposed to modding BG3 if needed, but not from the outset for fear of spoiling or ruining something

Memorable ones. And without "levels" on items.

I never got to use the sword which you can only reach with the teleport / some other movement spell in Fort Joy, because it was already outlevelled every time I got there. It would've been great to find great items which are really unique and which we could use from the moment of finding / acquiring them until the end.

The only item with this properties in the whole game of D:OS2 is the magic wand which the unfriendly dude in Driftwood sells. There could be so many more.

From the Reddit AMA:

Can you tell us anything about itemization? Will magical items be scarce, or will there be a lot to find?

I'm all for random items, known special items, or even item making/enchanting.

I'd kill to be able to make a ring & enchant it to my strengths. ..sadly, D&D item enchanting does not work quite that way. ;.;

I'm at least glad to learn that there "will be equipment with magical bonuses, but not many."

YEAH

My main problem with D:OS2 seems to be gone.
I am permanently flooded with totally random stuff, it has a level and the numbers go up like crazy with every level.

Such a great news!!

A huge thanks @Emrikol for finding this answer

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It looks they choose the best way about that.

We won, at least on paper.
Now we just have to wait and see if they can actually match these (lovely) publicly stated design goals.

Loot is one of my bigger issues with D:OS2 - to much inventory management, too little fun. That's one of the improvements I am looking forward to the most.

A Divinity game with memorable items... this game is now my most desired one. Now if it could get a bit of the feeling & epicness of the old baldur's gate games, and some interesting characters stories & romances, that could become the perfect rpg.

For the love of all that's holy, if Larian persists with BG3 in their bizarre insistence a la DOS:1 and especially DOS:2 in relying on randomized loot stats/randomized loot instead of proper Infinity Engine loot with fixed stats (ideally also with an emphasis on hand-placed loot), I'll have to fix the game with a mod, or not play it at all. The ridiculous and completely unbalanced loot stat progression that encourages unbelievably tedious save scumming and vendor camping in DOS:2 - made even worse by its inexplicable combination with a game design that features a fixed total number of encounters and railroaded level paths on the maps - is making DOS:2 Definitive almost unplayable for me. (Just one DOS:2 topic that discusses these crippling issues, as valid today for DOS:2 Definitive as it was when it was posted, can be found at http://forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=619480).

Larian, please tell me you've come to your senses when it comes to single-player CRPG design. NO. MORE. LOOT. RNG. Thank you.



I'm holding you to this, Larian!

Did you miss the fact that they ALREADY confirmed they won't?
Which is exactly what we were talking about in the last replies of this thread, by the way.

Nope. See my post. Hoping they don't change their minds, because BG3 is a way off yet, and the randomized loot stuff has been a scourge of Larian games for quite some time.

+1 for non randomized loot. I loved planning my characters arround what weapons they will use, I loved adventure of seeking them and felt satisfied when I got them. In DOS 2 I started to resent leveling up just because of how tedious loot was. Because of high scaling every time I leveled up I felt "strongly encouraged" to go to vendors and at minimum find new weapons for melee/archers and replace every item slot that felt 3-4 levels behind. Loot felt so generic, just a stat stick. Oh I got a unique, oops I came to area a bit overleveled and now this item is useless. I found DOS 2 loot system the most tedious part of otherwise great game.

Edit: oh they confirmed it. Nice.

I mean, I think the weapons having skills compensates for something that you can't really do in a video game as easily but many DMs do in actual play which is stuff like a called shot- "I want to pin this enemy's foot to the floor." "Okay, that'll be a higher AC for a called shot, and drop down a die less damage since you're not going for a fatal shot."

THIS
A bajillion times this.

If I see "you have to be level X to use this item" I'm going to firebomb Larians HQ.