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Ok, in the begiinging of the demo, talk to the DK, then go South immediatly, dont attack rats, useless, attack the guard, have DK attack first then the other dude. Then go East, then North, then go to the east into the 2nd cell you find, kill skeleton.

I got killed by skeleton! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />



<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" /> I did the first Spoiler! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

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to escape, get 4 keys from the corpse, then the southwestern jail cell, under the blanket. the run through the bottum, kill skeletons. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

DAMN! The level up is awesome! the new skills thing! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> And 5 points to boost, for each character, NICE!!!


Fun game, im at level 2! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

You missed a lot!
There is a quest in the cell block. You don't want to miss that one.

hmm. im just trying to force my way through though.
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> but still.
er. what do you mean??? in the cell blocks? you try to get out? or something more? could you PM me please? i thought you just get out, and furgenyness killed, free plox, now keep exploring.


This games pretty bloody, and gruesome.

weird altar to the evil dude though.


WHat AM I MIssing?! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

You will have to find out yourself. I've played it a while ago and have to play the demo they just released, but I doubt they took this out.
Killing Fergus should be the second quest you encounter. Like in Divinity, this game has more to offer then it shows at a first glance. And like in Divinity, you have to take your time in order not to miss anything.

I already beat the demo... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />









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Before you get to the pit... there are numerous locked doors... any way to get into those rooms?



And the hardest thing in the demo was the jailer with the axe (forgot his name off the top of my head) ... took a few reloads to get it just right. Otherwise it was fun... and I only got to use my two-handed sword once... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

I also completed the demo but I was in every single room which is accessable.

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You can open the doors with keys from the guards or simply use the levers on the walls. But there are some pretty hard level 5 ghosts behind those doors. So make sure your knight gets first the two handed sword at the end of the demo.

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There are also keys hidden next to the cell doors mostly behind a barrel or so. Press alt key to reveal the keys.

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In one of the cells is also a writing on the wall, is there someone who can read it?

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Yes, that's the translation of the wall painting (can't get those two letters):
GO DOWN PLEASE HELP US (english demo)
KOMMT HINUNTER BITTE HELFT UNS (german demo)

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I couldn't find any quest in any of the cell blocks.

neither did i....unless it was the mad prisoner??

The only actual "quest" is the initial one from the Deathknight to escape.

Oh wrong. There's a skull you can talk with. There's a prisoner who needs water. Furthermore Edmond the trainer doesn't believe that he's already dead <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Quest diary entries:

a digging ghost
thirsty prisoner
kill the torture master

escape from Samuel's prison => remains blue

ok, i got the thirsty prisoner one (that was at the end) and then i jumped in the pit, I loved the two handed sword, right when I needed it!

and the new arrow, quivers, good good good.


Kiya, were is the torture master??? and the digging ghost?

Yeah I hadn't gotten far enough to get the kill quest. I assume the others are after that.

Don't forget "The Torture Master's Slave" although that may only appear if you kill the imp.

You get more experience for letting Plox (the imp) go.

The torture master is Fergus, in the room east of the talking skull.

The digging ghost is in the west central cell where you start, if you read the letter and check the wall...

I didn't get a quest entry for the ghost...hmm gonna go through the dialogue tree again. NM: Got it now.

Just for general info, to get the quest from Edmond, (spoiler) [color:"#3A495A"]you need to tell him he is dead, either in the first speech option, or later after asking him if he thinks he can escape[/color] (highlight the text to read).

who is edmond??? were is he?


hmm, in the ghost room i read the manuscript, theres wall writing in their too?? i didnt notice any?

There is no writing, but did you run your cursor over the wall? Click on it to reveal a hole...

the wall in the ghost room??? no. i didn't. hmm. thanks Raze, Ill check there again in a few minutes.

how do i prove hes dead now??

You're in big trouble with the full game <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I prefer to try and figure out everything myself before asking.

well sorry if i like the ask questions <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> ive played through the demo, beaten it, and was at level 4, or so at the end. now im trying to find out about the looser ends. I can do that? right???

Yes, that's acceptable! haha...always better to find it the first time though.

well i have, i beat the demo. so now this is my 2nd, or 3rd. wait. 4th time through, so im wondering bout that.

The evidence you need is within the original cell block. spoiler: [color:"#3A495A"]Check the other cell in the centre of the block...[/color] (highlight the text to read)
There is not really any hint of where to look, and no logical place to go. The first time through I missed it, assuming I would find something later.

Is it possible to take screenshots from the demo? And that thursty dude won't take a bottle of water...

i wish/ iwanted to take some close combat shots of the DK with furgess for my desktop.



BTW Larian, I like it that it taskes a little bit to attack, and you see the DK getting his sword out of the sheath, very nice quality and detail! i love seeing that sort of thing in a game. not just automatically getting the sword out and attacking. and sometimes after a big hit i see him sort of stagger and wait to hit. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

Is this a bug or my PC being weird. The guy you give the water to, is he ment to have a Steven Hawking style voice?

Screenshots => I used PSP8, not possible with CTRL+F11.
Water => only one bottle works. The one in the kitchen, watch your quest diary turning red if you pick it up..


Correct, but I don't kill needlessly if I can get more XP - as Raze said <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

psp8??? whats that????




ahh, i wondered why it glowed like that, thankx.

and how to i prove to the edmonthn hes dead???


Thank you Kiya

Hmmmmmmm, remember the cell opposite of yours, Lews? Go there - and go into the middle of this cell <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

ok. thanks.

well, I reloaded an older savegame, one I took in that kitchen, then took that specific bottle, went up, and WALKED THROUGH that locked door. The guy drunk, died, but me and deathknightbuddy are BOTH stuck in his cell. I'm unable to escape.

Could you be a bit more specific on how you took that screenie?

For screenshots, there is a 'Capture' folder in the demo, but no hotkey listed in the options, so this doesn't seem to be implemented yet. The Print Screen button works, if you only need one screenshot at a time, or can alt-tab out to paste into a graphics program and save. There are various screen capture programs, including;

PNGShot - 353KB download, single file, no install, open source
Saves as PNG, and has a very flexible and configurable naming scheme; you can specify a base name combined with a counter and/or (all or part of) the date and/or time, in a format you specify.

There is a 2 second freeze in the demo when saving screenshots, but that is not necessarily a bad thing; at least you know you got the shot. I ran the program through UPX to drop the files size from 688KB to 294KB.


Grabby - 100KB download, no install required, freeware
Good performance, with only a half second hesitation in BD. However;
- the counter re-sets whenever the program is re-started, so you would have to move the screenshots each session if you did not want them to be overwritten
- it stores its options in the win.ini file. It is only 8 lines, but it is not a good thing to do.


Hardcopy - 1.7MB download for install, 1.8MB for optional add-ons, donationware
very good performance. fairly powerful, though complex, program.
Available in Danish, German, English, French, Dutch, ...

You shouldn't walk through locked doors; open them first. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

lol!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> good one Raze, eh,

do you have an old save? from a little bit before? always save before going into a new room.

I have a dozen saves. But I think this needs to be looked at by the devs. I didn't make a big effort into surpassing that door ( walking in ), I just did.

I do like the demo.

Oh, and that trap in that door [ opens with the 4+1 levers ] didn't show up, just like when the guy sitting next to me was beta-testing it.

Did you click inside the room or on the door? Were you holding the mouse button down, so the characters would follow the mouse direction?
I went through there several times, just checking again recently to see if the water bottle was the only thing you needed, and didn't run into this.

About the door opened by levers, did you try just the 4 levers? The trap should show up then.

What did I do? Good question. I just don't know. I clicked that door probably a few times, then I wanted to move along, but I couldn't, and the deathknight just followed my char. My char went in first, and the deathknight then followed through that door, like it wasn't even closed. I didn't TRY to walk through that door, that's for sure. I've been attempting to force myself through for the last 10 minutes, but that hasn't worked. Bleh.

I'll see about the levers again in a minute.

about that trapped door, I noticed now: there is a small amount of "red" appearing at the bottom

Shouldn't the trap show up if you have the skill "detect traps"?

I think Coes means you can not see the spikes in the trap very well (they are hidden behind the wall), as you can in some of the preview screenshots in open areas (found one, spikes in the top right and bottom right).

game over

what trap??? and can you get the skill in the demo? i wasn't aware of that. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" /> I need to explore more.

That was a trap set to kill you, not one you could set. In the room with the 5 levers, if you miss the one on the left wall, or pull it before the 4 on the north wall, the opened door will be trapped.

Kiya's BD demo screenshot walkthrough/spoiler

hmm, i did that . but he said no reason to waste strength human, its blocked. and i never saw any traps! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />


yes, Kiyas map/spoiler is very nice.

Again, Raze, this skill to see traps (the door one) can only be seen if you have the "detect Traps" skill - and at this stage of the game... you don't have it. Or did I still misunderstand something?

If I didn't misunderstand => then it's logical IMO to walk blindly into that trap if the lever wasn't pulled. Though... I wish I could see if the skill would underline my theory or not <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" /> - in any case, I liked the subtle hint on the paper ("rest was smudged either cherry jam or blood...)
Kiya

hm, thanks to Yann for telling me why i wasn't getting the trap.

a BUG! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> but will be fixed so, no problems, just a way that i miss being able to be killed. no problem with that! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


yes, thats what I was wondering Kiya, I didn 't think you could get the detect traps skill in this stage of the game. or maybe. hmm. maybe. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

If you do not disable the trap before walking through the door, you die, and can barely see what it was that killed you. In my game over screenshot, that is about as good a view of the triggered trap that I could see.

I have reproduced this bug. If you move close to a locked door and for some reason your second character gets too close to the door he appears to be in the wall and if you click further he will go right through. I've only been able to get a single character through a locked door so far.

There is a locked door in the far east. Did anyone find a key to get in there? I've been to every other possible place in the demo but I can't seem to locate a key to get in this last room.

Thanks.

Where the guard ran and locked the door?...

Haven't been able to get through that one either...

Yep that's the one. They blocked the door.

I don't think that door is accessible in the demo. The DeathKnight said it could only be opened from the other side, but there may be another way. The only other way anywhere is the pit at the end of the demo.

hmm.

how are people taking pictures???



can there be more options for + - then just far away and far in??

maybe a medium option?



I can't get the trap there, never works for me. some strange bug. doesn't matter though.

Kiya, pressing TAB doesn't do it. you then need to press get all.

The Print Screen button works (copies screen to clipboard). I posted links to other programs a couple dozen posts back in this topic (search for PNGShot).

Print Screen puts em on the clipboard??? weird. then do I just paste them???

http://www.larian.com/ubbthreads/dosearch.php


didn't do it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sad.gif" alt="" />

Yes you can just paste a screenshot into a graphics program, though the Windows clipboard only holds one item at a time.

If you searched the forum for 'PNGShot', or went back a page or so in this topic, you should have found this.

Yeah the only room I have not accessed is in South East corner, I was thinking I could just bust it down the the steel bar, but had to use that for the wheel. But however if you get close to the door you can see the stairs that lead up to it.



I'm sure the pit leads to it. Too bad the demo is so short =(

...Kind of off topic...

I think the female pictures look better than the male pictures... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />

what steel bar for the wheel???

The one found just before the very end, in a hallway on a table. Just hold alt, and you should see it easier. Look for "iron bar". I haven't tried it, but I suppose it can be used to block the wheels of the gates for the spiders, to trap them inside.

ahh. ok. thanks

Better grab the claymore and smash the spiders for experiance. Plus you get a key in one of the haystacks.

A good RPG has several ways to deal with problems. That was a proof that BD is definitly a good RPG <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />.

who needs experience in the demo really? As far as I can make out, you can only get up to level 4, and that's without killing the spiders even.

yeah. good rpg. you can jump down the hole.

you can attack with a dagger
attack with a bow
attack with a sword.

attack with magic.

kill 1, then run
kill 2, the go

use the wheel thing.


tho i never found the steel rod this time through. hmm. is it on Kiya's map? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

I do.
Seriously, I am playing demos like if they were full games.

[color:"orange"]i never found the steel rod this time through.[/color]

It should be partly under some garbage, by the table before the arena door.

Well, this specific door is marked on the map ( not mini map, the big map ), so according to the Divinity lore, it should be quest related. Right?

It is most likely part of the quest to leave the prison.

I imagine it's like the door to the holding hells where you begin. You don't ever need to go through it, but you can open it from the other side to shortcut back into the prison. It's the "normal" exit from the prison. Also, it makes for an interesting quest: escaping via the less obvious route.