Larian Studios Forums Beyond Divinity (English) Technical Problems Patch V 1.41 for ENGLISH version released

We've just released patch V1.41 for the English version of Beyond Divinity which fixes a couple of issues with the game. If you installed patch V1.4, then we recommend strongly that you download and install this patch as patch V1.4 could potentially cause problems with your items & inventories.

For more information or to download the patch, follow this link.

Hi there,

I tried this hotfixed patch on my problems with some bf1 quests but the 1.41 actually made these problems worse! The 1.4 somehow wasn't able to resolve solutions like, in my case, The Healing Rope mission and The Mad Merchant mission. But after installing this hotfix these quests all have an $ERROR in them.... And I mean $ERROR in conversations and $ERROR in the logbook. Will I have to restart the game again? I hope not...this was already my third try (in 2 days, and that's a lot for me(a lot of tries I mean, not days)). <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Problems with this patch!

So far, after installing 1.41 I have nothing but issues.
My teleport pyramids are gone from inventory.
I zoomed to the battlefields, and now I can't leave. When I try I just get sent right back to the same battlefield. I'm pretty well hosed here.

Here's something: After installing the v1.41 patch, double clicking on the skeleton summoning doll crashes my game to desktop.

I have thge same exact problems. I can enter battlefields in act4, but cannot leave them, my pyramids are gone too, this is the case on new and old save games. Guess I will wait for next patch to be able to play the game the way I want (i.e. utilizing battlefields).

Krathax

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there we go .... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" /> ...light at the end of the tunnel!

Cross-quoting me now? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Sorry, but it's true. Accept it people. If you don't believe it, play Fallout out of the box, then patch it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />

I very much doubt I am going to start all over again in Act 4. I'm sorry, but Act 4 is the end of the game and I am 5minutes off completing it. I'd rather throw the game out than go through that frustration and have the same bug occur again during the same act later. If multiple people are having it, that deems it a bug and it must be addressed or it will keep happening. Starting over only hides the problem, to save face.

Note: The patch clearly states "This patch will not affect your save games". Really? It seems it is in some way or another.

I for one do not wish to keep playing my game in fear of another bug happening that totally stops my progress. This is starting to remind me of Temple of Elemental Evil... bug city all over again. I like Beyond Divinity, I have fun playing it, but you can't expect people to start over anytime a bug appears. In a game which costs full price over here, there shouldn't be so many game-stopping bugs in the first place. We don't pay to reinstall, restart and generally be frustrated anytime something goes wrong.

I believe you, but it's unfortunate. Just because this happened in Fallout doesn't make it right for BD.

I believe that Larian tried to make the patches compatible with old saves, but I also believe they failed.

Bottom line: My game is broken, I'm not starting over. Lesson learned, money wasted. Well at least wasted for now. Maybe in a few more patches things will be working again and I'll find the patience to start a new game.

i just arrived in the imp village, attempted to go to the battlefields, and was wisked off on a crystal shard crusade by the nasty necromancer. after completing that, i arrived back in the imp village, and then immediately went to battlefields for some hack & slay. i have yet to locate the teleporter pyramids, let alone complete any imp quests.

is now a safe time to install the new 1.41 patch, and not break the game / lose the teleporter pyramids or suffer any other annoyances the others have been with this particular patch?

shhh on the nonscaling arrow weight... makes them just as good as gold... *kick* .:heh:. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Whaaaaaaat? I like balance... I mean, weightless shoes and melons? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

it occurs to me that the problem with being unable to leave the battlefields might have something to do with the fact that perhaps people have used the act 1 battlefield keys to access the battlefields map as i did. meanwhile, if the patch has corrected this then you should only be able to access the battlefields if you find the keys for them in act 2. i have found 1 in the cell where i rescued the imps, for level 3 battlefields, act 2, which i clicked on and it appears to have activated them legitimately. and of course God did whisper in my ear, knowing the frustration i'd experience, and told me to save a copy of the game right at the beginning of act 2, as well as the end of act 1. so, if worse comes to worse, i should be able to install the patch and begin from act 2 beginning with no problem, right? (hopefully.)

also, are people dropping a teleporter at the battlefields rather than using the skill tree option? seems like a silly thing to do to me. i'd rather use my teleporter stone for something else and save the trip to the battlefields for the keys. they were designed to fit the locks afterall, and backdoors such as teleporters do have ways of being shut.

please tell me i'm not going to experience the summoning doll problem that crashes the game. i'd really hate that.

awe come on, you're taking away the warm fuzzy feeling i had when i collected the melons... i thought they were something special to trigger an easter egg later on...

(no really ... i did)

.:heh:. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

lol, I STILL think that way, even thugh the beta-tester portion of my brain tells me otherwise <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

To answer your first part: I'm on Act 4 and do not pick the keys up when I find them. I click them on the floor (which activates BF) and then walk away. There is no need to pick them up and carry them with you. I know for a fact that I have not clicked on an earlier act key for that reason and the fact that I just activated the Battle field 5 key in Act 4 shortly before I first encountered the bug. I used the key and was using the battlefields in said act fine (warping to and from with the skill tree option) without a problem before I installed patch 1.40. I warped to the Battlefield as per usual and when I clicked the leave skill tree option, I just respawned in Battlefield on the spawn spot. Patch 1.41 did not correct the problem.

And your other bit: No I do not drop a teleporter stone at battlefields, purely because I have no stones after a bug in Act 3 took them.

It's a very strange bug to say the least and i've been trying now for 4 days to find a solution.

I've noticed also when I try and exit battlefields, the loading bar appears for around 2 seconds (no way near long enough to load the Act 4 map) and then disappears before I respawn in Battlefields.

welcome to the world of Microsoft.

we are the beta testers <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Indeed. Except i'm by no means an expert with computers, i'm more practical.

I just want to try and find a solution to this bug without starting over, purely so I can post it if others get stuck later. It's all very confusing because it's like the game just doesn't want to load the act you were on.

I know it's a save compatability problem (patching and not restarting the game), i'm just curious as to what caused it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Don't know if anyone else is having this happen but since installing the 1.41 patch last night my heros don't seem to be taking any damage.
I went into Citadel Lvl 7 after installing patch and was able to fight all the gargoyles and elemental without taking any damage at all.
This was strange because before the patch the two gargoyles on level 3 beat the fool out of me.
Also still have strings showing up in my conversation logs and now after patch 1.41 have $ERROR$ strings all over my quest log.
Hope we can resolve all this without making folks start games over. If starting over is required we should get a rebate on cost of game related to time spent playing and having to start over. Sorry, but I am really disappointed in this game after loving Divine Divinity, which kept me up several nights playing.

This guy is absolutely insane. He picks up on the 1 person who claims he's not having any problems since starting over and posts it in 15 threads. Believe me, this guy is hardly spewing a light at the end of the tunnel. Larian's responses that the bugs are being worked on however is the light that you are looking for. Not saying it will be in the next patch...maybe not even the one after that, but they will come through eventually.

I wonder just how many topics Jurak has posted "Start a new game" in. As I said, there is no way in hell i'm starting over when i'm at the last enemy in the game. (Who may I add is kicking my behind all over the place).

I'm wondering hard whether to even start a new game when i'm finished with this one. I was going to try stealthy or magic this time around but I might just go back to Divine Divinity. Apart from my love of that game, I miss the Orcs and Dwarves <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" />.

he may be obnoxious, but he makes a valid point. starting a new game AFTER the patch is likely to not have any of the issues games in progress seem to be having.

Larian has noted that patches may or may not be able to correct issues within currently progressing games, depending where you are in the game.

I know how this is. I had this problem with Prince of Qin. Good game, but patches fixing something with multiplayer and then later with the single player, would break something new in the single player game. so i started over 3 times. i;m currently taking a break from my 3rd session, while i'm playing this one.

Damn from 1.4 to 1.41, now a quest of bettlefield act 1 has $ERROR$ in place of the item i should find.

But worse, whatever the way i use to finish ACT1 ( i wont spoil more ), i get the loading screen and then i crash to desktop <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

And that whatever resolution i use.

since i checked the patch downloads page, after downloading 1.41, i noticed that you have pulled the patches and are informing us that you are updating. does this mean that you are feverishly working on a new one right now to fix the issue with the summoning doll, battle fields and pyramids?
i wonder if i should wait to install the patch or continue with my experiment as i've already backed up my save folder, and am prepared to uninstall and reinstall to patch 1.32 if necessary.

hmm....


EDIT

well i tried it just for grins. the summoning doll blew up my game.

or rather 1.41 did. so, time to uninstall everything....

andtakeitbacktothestore!

.:heh:. <=== poking fun at everyone whose getting overly bent about this.

actually, i'm going to reinstall to 1.32, and, thanks to everyone who encountered this issue posting, copy my savegames from my backup folder into the savegame folder again. foresight is a wonderful thing.

believe me i sympathise and i'm sorry that you guys are going to have to perhaps restart if a patch to fix the issue isn't possible (apparently the summoning doll problem might be there regardless of a new or in progress game).

But given that i've grinned and born it myself through a different game, specifically, Prince of Qin, which I happen to like alot, and which is currently working, as i'm playing it with the latest patch, I can't really say i feel completely sorry for anyone. Been there done that. Sometimes these things just happen.

I appreciate all you fellow beta testers who got to the patch before I did.

Thanks. And thanks to Larian for pulling it before any more games got broken.

Looking forward to a new improved patch very soon. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Actually, I know it may not refer directly to what we think it does;

but "This patch with not affect your saved game" posted all over the support page kind of says it won't cause all these problems, to those of less technical background. If I'd known it would, i'd of stayed with 1.00 to be perfectly honest, but now I like the respawning gold to feed my potion addiction <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" />.

We can't all be bug-testers and computer experts, unfortunately.

As for starting over: The point is, not many people are prepared to lose a few days to a weeks worth of work (Beyond Divinity is pretty darn hard in places) just to delete it anytime a new patch fixes stuff that is wrong. I never had problems in Baldurs Gate, NWN, Morrowind etc after patching. The only thing I ever had problems with (in Morrowind particularly) was fan made modules. I know it's like comparing apples and oranges but hell, as has already been said: We paid for the game, we shouldn't be expected to bug test as well. That's a beta stage, not retail.

And no, i'm not complaining/whining/pissing/bitching. I like BD, I'm just wondering if anyone takes into consideration what less-knowledgable computer users might think. I've already had one friend refuse to buy BD after playing my copy and who bought FarCry instead. It's a damn shame. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" />

i do understand where you are coming from, and you are right of course. i chalk it up to the fact that larian is a fledgling company.

i noticed that they yanked the patches before anyone else installed them. i am thinking that i might wait. but since i backed up my save folder it might be interesting to see what happens.

Well i've reinstalled three times today already so, nevermind lol. Experimenting with that battlefield bug has probably caused my hard-drive to be randomly generated and not just the battlefields <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" /> I hate to think how long Defrag is going to take tonight.

WELL...

OOPS.

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

So, now that we know that 1.41 is a bad patch due to the following major game breaking problems:

1) clicking the summoning doll crashes the game
2) teleporters are missing / broken
3) act 4 battlefields cannot be left

when can we expect these to be corrected?

also, if one is in act 2, imp village, and hasn't done solved any of the imp quests, nor any of the battlefield quests, nor has one retrieved the pyramids, would it be safe to say the new patch will allow one to continue?

or would it be advisable to continue the game from save at the beginning of act 2 or at the end of act 1?

let me know.

thanks

keep up the good work. sorry about the bad stroke of luck on this latest patch.
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I think in the other thread Lar states that if you have a save game of version 1.41, you'll need to install the patch or get the bugs later. Don't quote me on that though, i'm a bit confused myself.

If worse comes to worse, just reinstall the game and only download/run patch 1.42. I think I will anyway, to avoid any conflicts.

i don't plan on getting that far ahead yet for it to make a difference. i'll wait until the new one arrives. where is that post by Lars <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/question.gif" alt="" />?

Here: Patch Announcement (Kind of)

thanks. boy, they sure goofed. i suppose if i was to patch from 1.4 to 1.41, it might actually work? rather 1.4 to 1.42.

*raised eyebrow* so which is it. i rather enjoy the summoning doll help.

and would like to continue using it.

I don't think anybody has a clear idea what they should do. I for one need step by step instructions, confusion got the better of me on this one. I'd rather reinstall game and then apply the new 1.42 patch coming out but o_O I dunno if I need to. Currently have 1.41 installed, but my saves have been altered by 1.40 in the past.

ah but since i never installed 1.4, that presents a whole new problem. because apparently its a new bag of worms if you don't. typically, one shouldn't have to install each patch successively except when otherwise told to do so.

did you have the same problem i did with the summoning doll after installing your patches? when you open inventory and click the summoning doll to summon the skeleton, does it appear and play continues, or does the game crash to desktop?

I can summon them fine, all three (including last one which I wont name in case you aint got it yet). Hmmm this is very confusing. I think I may just do what I said and reinstall from scratch <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

YES MINE DOES TOO< THIS SUCKS [nocando] DO I HAVE TO RESTART GAME?? IM PISSED I"VE BEEN PLAYING FOR DAYS< AND THAT MEANS 12+ HOURS A DAY = 50 + game hours!!!