Larian Studios Forums Beyond Divinity (English) Technical Problems Patch version 1.42 online

well if one comes across as arrogant, that wasn't meant that way necessarily. i do have certain character flaws i'm working on which sometimes slip through when i get annoyed. however, i never labeled those who were upset with the bugs as haters. I have been upset with bugs. those who i did label as haters, and perhaps i was wrong in doing so, were those who insisted on casting invectives and curses in the general direction of Larian, behaving as if Larian was some evil entity bent on subverting them into paying for inferior product.

I don't claim enlightenment. i claim experience, personal, in that i've behaved as i described, flinging invectives and curses at people or institutions for things that were beyond my control, that didn't go my way. i can tell you how ineffective such behaviour was. meanwhile, to behave in a more mature fashion, to attempt some form of resolution and change in a fashion that doesn't put people on the defensive, by discussing instead of attacking, by listening instead of assuming... these things are truths that work, provided people are willing to listen and put them to practice. perhaps i only have because others turned and decided to attack. now my frame of mind for the entire discussion hasn't been the same all the way through due to outside factors, and being an imperfect human, i am sure that the tone of my posts was influenced by these factors. this is something i was unable to control as i hadn't taken a moment to step back and view things from that perspective. frustration with things people and events can lead words to be used in a fashion that slants the tone of a writing in a fashion that isn't intended to accurate, when perceived by others.

in any event, do well to not make assumptions about my attempt at sharing a possibly better way of being as perceiving myself better than others or even that they should think as i do. if you don't, fine. some may think that attacking and conquering, subjugating others and forcing them to bend to their will is the right way to handle a situation. this doesn't make it right. remember earth, Hitler, 1942. However, those individuals are certainly entitled to their opinion. when a person's opinion starts to harm others, then perhaps it is time to step in and suggest or promote something different. casting curses and inventives and disparaging comments at people is emotional abuse and completely unnecessary.

and i apologize for coming off as arrogant. i didn't mean to.

In my opinion the major thing the Larians did wrong was listen to the visitors here too much. They should never have implemented some of the changes they made and should just have focussed on removing the bugs from the released version, instead of adding changes/functionality that were in some cases buggy in themselves.
Several of the things that were apparently fixed in the latest patches weren't even bugs to begin with. They were design decisions that some people on the forum (or maybe even many) didn't liked.

I know of no developer studio who actually listens to their players to the extend the Larians have done and still do. I wish they changed that policy and stopped doing that, for the benefit of themselves and Beyond Divinity.

Don't you remember the story of the button that goes "BOOM"!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

heh.

you are right. that does create problems these problems. while i appreciate them being flexible, better planning is needed in that kind of situation.

btw, i apologize to the forum in general for being so passionate and to a degree, overbearing and insensitive with my frustration. retrospect made me take a 2nd look, along with the gentle prodding of a certain forum member who is older and wiser than i who was kind enough to point out certain missteps where-in i failed to be a better diplomat than I was. For I certainly didn't begin with the intent, and my humanity swallowed me whole and then spit me back out. i allowed certain perceptions of tone to set me off, due to different ways of feeling on different times off-board, and i think that made me a little crazy. anyhow, i hope there are no hard feelings, as i have none. i enjoy a good humility lesson now and again . thanks.

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Everyman,

That post took courage and I applaud you for posting it. Well done. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

'For me, this is a dead issue.' (Wasn't that a line from Austin Powers 'Goldmember'?) <-------- loved that movie, btw. Saw parts of it again last night. Austin Powers' 'Faasha' <-------- still cracks me up! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" />


Faralas <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mage.gif" alt="" />

Hear, hear! I couldn't have said it better myself. I've been thinking that for a while now, and I'm glad someone finally put it into words.

Hey I said that too! Sort of anyway! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

I think Myrthos put it more eloquently though. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

Edit: I just read the whole thread. I will direct hoots of derisory laughter to the person(s) screaming 'I don't want to start again, my time is too valuable!' <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" />

Dude, you're playing a computer game, the best way to waste time in modern society. Unless you get paid for playing or developing it you have ALL the time in the universe to complete it. You are on some kind of mission or something?

I expect to be flamed for this comment but I care not. Seriously, chill out, have a beer and wait for Larian to make the effort to fix the game. Then start over bug free and laugh at the forces of evil because you know exactly what's round the corner! Mauhahahahaha! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

I just thought I'd point out Mr. Womble.......

there is nothing in your teeth! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" />

i forgot what i came here for....... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/idea.gif" alt="" /> Oh yes,

patches....that was it...i hate to admit i'm having a tad bit of difficuly
gettin the sucker to run...

is there a page with all the patches listed for dwnld somewhere <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />
(all of them) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

.:heh:.

cheers

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you should only need to install 1.42 from 1.0 install. perhaps you should list certain specifics that Larian may need to help you. what exactly is the issue you are running into. if you can describe in detail what is happening, to the best of your ability, it will provide some insight for us &/or Larian to be able to assist.

everyman,
I'm with Faralas on this one. I'm seriously impressed by your response - max respect! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Regards,
Brightblade

Does this mean we're all friends again..... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stupid.gif" alt="" />

good everybody wave your arm like this... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />


<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kitty.gif" alt="" /> says "meow"

LOL!!! Uh oh, a pot stirrer! <-------- (just kidding). And I won't wave my arm cuz you can't make me. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" /> B'sides, I don't hafta, if I don't wanna. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> ---------> Neener, neener, neener. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


Btw, Jurak - are you playing <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> yet? I'm lovin' every minute of the game. It's tee-RIFIC.


Faralas <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mage.gif" alt="" /> of <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mage.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mage.gif" alt="" />'s


P.S. This message was <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" /> Apologies to the management. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" /> (For them, I'll wave my arm) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> when did we ever stop being friends?

aren't the best friends the ones who are willing to go out on a limb for something they believe in, and share it? and then they can kick one in the behind for taking themselves too seriously? of course.

someone got an ice pack, my butt hurts.

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Wrong-o, EM! A best friend is someone who will take care of all of my problems, give me as much money as I want (whenever I ask), and drops everything they're doing when I call (especially at 3AM) to help me open a jar of pickles.

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Odd, though. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" /> My friends haven't dropped in to visit for a while. *scratches head* I wonder why? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />



Faralas <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mage.gif" alt="" />