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@ Plowking I thank you so much <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

@ Al this is so nice. An author should write for him/herself first. And FROM her/himself. Because most of the times what we write is what we are. And what we are is what we write. Everytime I see something writen even it is the smallest thing I can not stop thinking that this is a little piece of the heart of the author. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> And btw I enjoyed Adorant very much.


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That reminds me of my last story (Star Wars Fan Fiction) which turned (during writing) into a huge experiment. Therefore, I suspect that critics may find *many* flaws in it ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />


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@ Rhianna thank you for the reply. And thank you for once more for your gift. Because every book is a gift. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

@ Al I would really like to see that <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Edit : Forgot Plowking = I loved Necroscope series too. But you know me. Vampires... my all time fav. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />

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Edit : Forgot Plowking = I loved Necroscope series too. But you know me. Vampires... my all time fav. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />


Aye it's a great series overall. There are a lot of great ideas in them and I particually enjoy the vampires as they aren't run of mill hollywood vampires in any way. I loved the ending of it all too...had a nice air of H.P. Lovecraft about it. Lumley is a big fan of Lovecrafts by the way and wrote a few books and short stories based on Lovecrafts writings. So that'd be his inspiration for a lot of that. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

Reading Wheel of Time series at the moment. Just finishing book 2...

Who's read them? Lews of course...and a few others I'm sure...

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Reading Wheel of Time series at the moment. Just finishing book 2...

Who's read them? Lews of course...and a few others I'm sure...

I did read book 1 and 2. Not my cup o' tea, I'd rather read George Martin.

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I'd rather read George Martin.


The Beatles producer?? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

Or is it another George Martin... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />

A song of ice and fire...heard them mentioned a few times on the forum. I'll check them out!

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Anyone read the Sword of truth series here? (called Zwaard der waarheid / Wet van de magie #x in Belgium)

I read like seven books of them and I absolutely love 'em <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />.

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Anyone read the Sword of truth series here? (called Zwaard der waarheid / Wet van de magie #x in Belgium)

I read like seven books of them and I absolutely love 'em <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />.

By Terry Goodkind?
Aka Wizard's First Rule books?
If yes, then the answer is positive.

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Anyone read the Sword of truth series here? (called Zwaard der waarheid / Wet van de magie #x in Belgium)

I read like seven books of them and I absolutely love 'em <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />.

By Terry Goodkind?
Aka Wizard's First Rule books?
If yes, then the answer is positive.


I haven't read Sword of Truth series yet, but I just bought Wizard's First Rule. The salesperson at the bookstore highly recommended it. Haven't had time to read any of it yet, but I'm looking forward to it. Btw, here's the publisher's website if anyone's interested.





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plow, DATD is correct about martin's books.
the series starts with 'a game of thrones'. i'm a very harsh critic when it comes to the fantasy genre (i think jordan is okay, eddings worse and brooks just plain sucks), few succeed in my opinion, but martin is one that does. excellent work.

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plow, DATD is correct about martin's books.
the series starts with 'a game of thrones'. i'm a very harsh critic when it comes to the fantasy genre (i think jordan is okay, eddings worse and brooks just plain sucks), few succeed in my opinion, but martin is one that does. excellent work.


One of the few books where you have no idea what might happen next or how it may end, without the mumbling of Robert Jordan (no offence, Jordan fans), the flat characters of Tolkien (no offence, Tolkien fans) and the strange cliches/rip off of Goodkind (no offence, Goodkind fans).

About Goodkind: I sometimes argue with my father about those books. I say the story is full of cliches. He replies that the story's not important unlike the quotes, specific paragraphs and backgrounds. He did like George Martin and agreed that both the plot and the character developement was remarquable. He even was surprised a couple of times, which happens once in a lifetime.

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Diabolic question => doesn't a rather conventional, patriarchic, conservative genre as heroic fantasy LIVE from cliches?
Kiya <thinking about a lot of heated discussions with colleagues>

I know a few authors making fun of this genre, specially in the feministic fantasy sector - but only one non-German one. Nope, Terry Pratchett doesn't count - he's not considered as "heroic" fantasy, I'm talking about all those typical hack&slash ones.

This is exactly my reason, why I prefer youth fantasy books - they don't hold such a lot of cliches.

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@ Plowking Yeap. One of the special things in Necroscope Series was that the vampires had nothing to do with the sterotyped Hollywood thing.
I am reading "The Innkeeper's Song" by Peter S. Beagle at the moment. Translated in Greek of course.

Edit : And the main chars are women. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Diabolic question => doesn't a rather conventional, patriarchic, conservative genre as heroic fantasy LIVE from cliches?
Kiya <thinking about a lot of heated discussions with colleagues>

Yes, you have a point there. That's the reason I never read Connan, although I know it's the original Heroic fantasy.[/quote]

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This is exactly my reason, why I prefer youth fantasy books - they don't hold such a lot of cliches.

I don't know: Harry Potter might be considered a youth heroic fantasy?

Yes, Pratchett is more "unheroic" fantasy <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />. That's one of the many reasons I love Terry Pratchett so much. *TP fanboy*

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Except Harry Potter, of course - I'm sick and tired of this series. No, Mahy, the Tillerman series (forgot author's name) and there are more, have to look them up, as I work in the adult part and my youth colleague supports me with my "drug".
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Except Harry Potter, of course - I'm sick and tired of this series.


Glad to see I am not the only one. After some time, I realise what was my problem with Harry Potter: he is nobody.
No extraordinary mental capacities, no exquisite logical quickthinking, no great wisdom... nothing. A simple flat character with a somewhat important background.
The book's clearly overrated.
Hell, show a random book on TV by some unknown author: the sales would triple in 2 days.
For youth fantasy, Moomini trolls are still the best. Even if it's a kid's book.

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Mumin? By Tove Jansson? DEATH, a biiiiiiiiig hug, I didn't know anyone would know it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> (Snork, Mumin, Troll, Mora etc?)
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Oh is it called The Wizard's First rule in America? I always thought it was called "Sword of Truth". And yeah, sometimes it might be cliched but I like the roughness of the story, meaning all the stuff you wouldn't see in most fantasy books like the killing, language and a lot sexual content. Just made it look more medieval and gritty to me.

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I'm a huge fan of the Moomins I have all the books. I'd say they are quite dark as children's books go. When I was a kid, dad build me a large Moomin valley out of wood and papier-mâché, about 3 foot long. He also made me a Moomin house and made all the Moomins out of clay and painted them <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Tove has also written books for adults as well. I particularly like Summer Story, you can see where she got a lot of ideas for the Moomins from when you read that.

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So, they're called Moomins in English? I read them in German. Oh, Leather_Raven, you like them too? I'm really delighted. This was the very last forum, where I had expected Jansson fans <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> (My was my favourite, she was so cheeky)
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