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I reckon the worst ones are when you wake up and realise that it could be real. I had one dream a while ago that did this to me.

I was visiting a friend who had just moved into a new appartment. I had a kid with me who I was looking after. We stayed the night. The next morning I woke and was chatting with everyone. I spoke with the kid who told me how he killed one of the boys at school who had been bullying him. I could see the bully's corpse in the next room. The kid acted like this was the most natural of things, killing someone you didn't like.

I woke up feeling rather disturbed by this dream. Not only was the content disturbing, but I woke up agreeing with the kid. At that moment, murder was acceptable.

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HEF, maybe you was connetecten to the dream of another person ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

I hope some of you have read the link I gave above. It illustrates a view on "dreaming" which I find fascinating.

According to Huna, "everything is alive, aware and responsive". Also, everything dreams. This doesn't necessarily mean dreaming of animals and humans, but of things, too. THe actual "dream" is the realization of a thought-pattern into reality. So to say, according to Huna, things "are dreamt into reality", if the dream is simply strong enough. Ideals, for example, or great goeals can be such examples of "dreaming into life". One example could be the USA or Israel - influenced or even shaped by people who had a dream (Zionism, for example). Considering this, the "Dream Time" of the Australian natives gets a whole new meaning.

What's also important - according to that view - is that we are connected - all our dreams can be or are connected, but you only get to know them by chance or if the focus is distinct enough. So I could interprete your dream of the boy who murdered someone as such a connection of dreams : You accidentally got to know somehow his dream and its message.

The matter is a bit more complicated, but there aren't texts out there which I could link to for explanation. If you want more info, PM me.

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Another point I've foudn interesting is that "the boy" (the kid in the dream) is a recurring focus in my life, not just in dreams. Multiple people have told me that one of my spirit guides is a boy. I have seen him before, but I've never been able to communicate with him. I never think to listen out for him and I'm not entirely sure how to.

He has managed to communicate with me before through indirect means. At one point he got sick of not getting through to me and went to one of my friends instead to get her to talk to me.

I had a look in a dream dictionary:

Boy – About 8 to 10 years old. Kind of scrawny.

If you are an adult male and dream that you see or are a boy, then it suggests your playful, innocent, childlike nature. Alternatively, it can symbolize the immature aspects of yourself that still needs to grow. Your inner child may be trying to draw your attention to parts of yourself that you need to recognize and acknowledge.

Murder – I didn't see it happen, but I saw the result. The corpse was just dead, not mutilated or disfigured in anyway.

To dream that you witness a murder, indicates deep-seated anger towards somebody. Consider how the victim represents aspects of yourself that you want to destroy or eliminate.

Bully – The same age as the boy, a bit more plump like the bully's I had at school. Face down, almost out of line-of-sight in the room.

To see a bully in your dream, signifies repressed rage. The bully may be seen as your shadow Self which you have rejected.

Room – The room the bully's corpse was in was empty. This seemed important for some reason. The room was clean, had nice floorboards, was waiting to be filled with furniture.

To dream that you are in a room, represents a particular aspect of yourself or a particular relationship. Dreams about various rooms often relate to hidden areas of the conscious mind and different aspects of your personality.

To dream that you find or discover new rooms, suggests that you are developing new strengths and taking on new roles. You may be growing emotionally.

To see an appealing or comfortable room in your dream, signifies opulence and satisfaction in life.

To see a dark, eerie or confining room, denotes that that you feel trapped or repressed in a situation.

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It all seems to point at bottled up rage. I'm not sure what it is trying to tell me. I'm good at bottling up rage, have done for twenty years. At the time of the dream, I was dealing with a very bad breakup and had a lot of rage towards the ex-. Strangely, she had similar dreams about death and theft and the same sense of it not mattering.

I think the dream wants me to change the way I deal with rage, to evolve it. So do I keep control over my rage, control being different to bottling it? Do I cease bottling it and let it spill over? Do I keep a firm hold on it should it cause myself or others harm? The part that intrigues me the most is the reccurance of "the boy".

I'm curious how others interperate it?

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To put anger and rage into a bottle and then close it mught one day lead to an outburst. It looks for an outlet somewhere 8else) and you lose control over it.

Anyway, just now you want to control your rage ... - but is "bottling" the right way ? What do you do with all this pressure ? What will it (the pressure) do ? Especially when the bottle isn't safe enough anymore ?

It might come to an outburst, yes. That's what the boy in you did in the dream. He did - maybe - what you would like to do but never did - or never had the chance to do.

Maybe you could try directing it somewhere else, and not "bottling" it anymore until it outbursts uncontrolled ? Maybe you could lead this "energy" into something ? art, for example ?

Maybe that's what your dream wants to say to you ?

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You what I used to do to control anger? Write sarcastic and funnily angry critisisms about movies. Its actually fun, and what better way to remove anger than to express it in a way that is fun (and is not hurting anyone <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> - that can be fun too <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> ).

Of course you can do what AlrikFassbauer said and express your anger in art (visual, musical, dramatic, poetic, story...ic..., whichever!).

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I reckon the worst ones are when you wake up and realise that it could be real. I had one dream a while ago that did this to me.


I agree that such dreams are terrible as well. Especially when later on you can't remember if they really happened or not. Its just mind-boggling! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />
Sometimes, you do something terrible (not as terrible as what happened in your dream though, HandEFood) and your not sure if you should go say sorry or be embarassed somewhere (or with someone). "Did I do that?" It hurts to think so. It's so unlike you, yet it seemed so real!
A very embarassing side-effect of such dreams is to actually mention the event that happened in your mind to someone and they say: "What the heck are you talking about?". And then you feel like an idiot... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> No... this doesn't happen to me often... what gave you that idea?...

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Amazing dreams are the ones where you enter a familiar house and find it at least twice the size and full of new rooms that wouldn't have fit before. Usually I find something new and terrifying in each of these rooms.

For example, I dreamt that I was at the up-stairs of my grandmother's house. I was alone of course (what better way than to discover the unknown on your own <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> ). The first new room I entered was another bathroom which contained a corpse in the bath-tub. The second was a third bedroom where, when I looked out the window, someone choked me to near death.

Has anyone els had this sort of dream?

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P.S.: I wonder if I was really choking out of my dream. Was I tangled in my blankets? What would have happened if I couldn't've stopped the killer from strangling me? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

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I do remember lots of my dreams, and I am very active intellectually during my sleep. I can even sometimes wake up knowing the answers and my mistakes to an exam I passed the day before... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> But what I prefer about dreams is what it teaches me, mostly about myself, and how it help me to see clearer in some situations or about questionning I have. It is pretty hard to explain since it goes greatly with instinct and emotions, though. And my dreams always have a life of their own. I mean, what happens in my head during my sleep is never self-concious, bonded to my concious will. The learning I get from my dream comes from the reminiscence of it and from the reflexion I have about it when I awake. What you talked about earlier, trying things in your dreams, trying to be concious of your dreaming state or trying to wake up are unknown to me (it's highly interesting, though)...
I think that dreams that let very strong (good or bad, although it's most often bad <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> ) impressions have often a cause in our subconscious; it can be a kind of unconcious warnings, expressions of unaware or inhibited states, or a kind of outlet, release. Finding the meaning of a dream is so closely related to the individual that dreams it that it can't be interpreted by anyone else than the one who dreamt it imho; you'll feel it when you'll find what it means, if you come to discover it. And if you don't find it, at least it will have had the advantage to have made you think and open your eyes on other points of view & possibilities, wich can't be a very bad thing... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

[color:"orange"] Know what one of the worst type of nightmares are <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/question.gif" alt="" />[/color]

I don't know if there are really a "worst" type of nightmares; my worst ones are always related to real-life traumatic events. The context changes, but the feelings and "threats" remain similar. In these cases it wakes me up (confused, most of the times); then I only wait for the remaining disturbing feelings to calm down and I usualy can get back to sleep with not much difficulty.
I heard somewhere that we never do more than one nightmare per night. I don't know if it is true, but it proves to be right as far as I know until now... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

[color:"orange"] what about getting caught up in some kind of action in a dream; running, panic, climbing, exertion of force (trying to move forward)?

i had some kind of dream where i can see very violent storm just outside my window as i was lying on the bed & i can feel the house being hit by the very strong wind. felt like the house was shaken. i woke up in a panic & looked out the window only to see a very quiet & calm night sky. [/color]

It happens to me once in a while too (most often during bad ones). One that comes back is travelling in a car on a road beside a river/lake, and that, for any reason, the car leaves the road and falls in the water. I awaken suddenly, often with a reflex of trying to grip on something, being confused and quite dizzy by the brutal come back to the (much more stable) reality. I am often very confused when I awake abruptly; it might take a good amount of minutes to me for it to pass when it happens... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />
But the times when dreams like this appeared the most real is when I was "sleeping" while being sick, having a high fever. It happened mostly in these conditions that I dreamt of falling from high places, and the awaking was pretty shocking. It was doing like when we watch 3d movies in wich we have the impression to be on a plane or coaster ride, and that we become kind of dizzy because the brain is tricked by the eyes seeing that we move but the internal ear canals who rule the balance that sense that we're still. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

[color:"orange"] It all seems to point at bottled up rage. I'm not sure what it is trying to tell me. I'm good at bottling up rage, have done for twenty years. At the time of the dream, I was dealing with a very bad breakup and had a lot of rage towards the ex-. Strangely, she had similar dreams about death and theft and the same sense of it not mattering.

I think the dream wants me to change the way I deal with rage, to evolve it. So do I keep control over my rage, control being different to bottling it? Do I cease bottling it and let it spill over? Do I keep a firm hold on it should it cause myself or others harm? [/color]

How to deal with rage, anger or frustration is one of my problems too. Bottling it may be a temporary solution but it gnaws by the inside then; letting it go out with the impulse of the moment often makes big messes (word-for-word and not) that we might regret. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" /> I agree with Alrik's suggestion of channeling rage through something like art, though; sometimes it works for me.

[color:"orange"] Amazing dreams are the ones where you enter a familiar house and find it at least twice the size and full of new rooms that wouldn't have fit before. (...)
Has anyone els had this sort of dream? [/color]

I often dream of familiar places that happen to be very different in my dream than what they are in reality (most of the time it is whole cities and big areas between wich I traveled a lot during a while). It's often much less sinister than your dreams, though <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> but it's as irrationnal. Once in a dream we had discovered that taking the longest road to go from one place to another was in fact a shortcut that was allowing us to make the travel in 30 minutes... The usual road takes two and a half hours by car and going by the "dream's shortcut" takes 5 hours in reality. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

One of the weird things with this dream is that I sometimes make other different dreams that are taking place in this exact same modified familiar places... Does it happen to you sometimes to have dreams that are the continuing of/that are related to a previous one?


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Does it happen to you sometimes to have dreams that are the continuing of/that are related to a previous one?


Yes this does happen to me often enough. I'm one of those people that often have nightmares (almost never good dreams <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> - probably because I bottle up much of my own rage... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> )

One of the ways that the related-dreaming happens for me is that I'll have a nightmare (like I said; no good dreams) that will go for a while, then stop. Lets say that the nightmare goes through acts 1-3. Next I'll dream the same thing, but acts 1-4. Then 1-5. Etcetera. Eventually, I will come to a extream conclusion after hours of nighmare torture. I say hours because I'll have the dream the same night, over and over, resulting in a half insomnia.

heard somewhere that we never do more than one nightmare per night. I don't know if it is true, but it proves to be right as far as I know until now...

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I heard somewhere that we never do more than one nightmare per night. I don't know if it is true, but it proves to be right as far as I know until now...


As I showed before, this proves wrong for me.

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...my worst ones are always related to real-life traumatic events.


I agree that another terrible and cruel type of dream includes real-life trauma that could happen. One that I personally hate is one where my brother dies. Feeling that sorrow may not be just as strong as the real thing would be, but I can say it sucks big time.

The one that scarred me the most is when I walk around the corner of a street at night, following my parents, only to find them brutally murdered by a masked mugger with a gun. He chased me for a bit, gaining. Apparently he decided not to use his gun, and to take out his long knife. When he got too close I turned around to kick him in the balls, only to miss and hit his left leg (this was years ago, and I remember this dream well). Then he stabbed me with the knife throught he stomach. The pain was like nothing I felt before.

That brings me to another fascinating fact about dreams: that you can feel things in there, that you've never felt before. I can't say that I felt the actual feeling of being stabbed (I've never shared the actual experiance) but I felt something the was beyond anything els, to this day.

So, another dream I hate: the ones where I feel extreame pain I can't escape. Another example is one where some "Frankenstein's monster" creature takes my leg apart, muscle by muscle, peice by peice (peices that probably don;t even exist <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> )

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Some times I get dreams that I know I've had before, so I know its a dream. But then I go, wait, maybe I am dreaming that I dreamed before. Hmmm....



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Captain: Stand strong sailor, even when things look their worst, there is still hope. Besides, it hasn't been sinking too long yet! What are you worried about?
Sailor: I'm worried about all that water leaking in Sir!
Captain: Then get a bucket and drain the water! We can still use this cork to plug up the leak...

Well, that little short personifies some pointlessness. Yes I know, I just wanted to right something that can technically be considered humorous, so what? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />

Ok, so the point of this is, I'd like to open this thread to all of the supernatural, and not only personnal experiances. Talk of Nessie, Big-foot, what you think, etc. Ghosts, possetions, the boogeyman, whatever! Scary movies even, though that may belong to another thread (if so, notify this one <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> ). Whats your opinions and theories?

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In case anyone is interested, here is a dream dictionary to interpret your dreams. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

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I'm sure most people have heard of the feeling called "déjà vu" (which some people pronounce "day-jah-view"). Its when you have an experiance that you feel like you've already had before.

For example: you walk into a museum for the first time.. yet it feels like you've been here before. Then you hear people next to you talking about something... then you think up the next words of their conversation just as they're saying them as if you've heard it all before. Co-in-ka-dink? Maybe.

Well I'd just like to say I've felt déjà vu many times before, but lately... I've felt something bigger. I don't just feel like I've gone through the experiance before, I KNOW it! I'm serious here, for those of you readers who are rolling their eyes at the crazy person. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

For example, I know I've had a dream that was exactly the same as a scene in the movie The Brothers Grimm. That wouldn't be too strange... if I hadn't had the dream at least four years ago !!

This has been happening in and out, mingling the weak déjà vu with this newer deffinitivement vu (deffinitivement=deffinantly for non french speakers). Anyone know what it is? Maybe I'm seeing the futur in dreams years ahead of the experiance, and by then I partially forget them... or maybe this is just a new improved déjà vu that is simply stronger and nothing more. I'm personally leaning toward the first thing. I know I've seen these things before.

Unbelievable?
Belive it.

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