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In this world there a great mysteries, like the Bermuda Triangle, or why Micheal Jackson decided to become a white chick. There are gosts and ghoules, voices and UFOs. What are they, who are they, what caused them, what is going on? We may never know. One thing we can do though is share the paranormal experiances we have personally expirianced. To expose more mysteries. To challenge our view of the world and what is reality...

OOOOO! Spooky huh? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

No, but really, I'd like to post this thread for people who have paranormal expiriances they'd like to share. Spooky stories they are personal witnesses to. I have a few myself that I will share upon seeing if this thread will go anywhere.

They don't need to be super scary or anything either. Just a mind-boggler will do just fine. So go ahead. Share the tale. We're listening. Take a step into... the Freaky Zone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Here are some tales for you, killerzzz: come and pay a visit to Shantara's Uncle Tatters...
If you have ever met a ghost, maybe will you find one of his relatives there, who knows?
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After checking it out, I would suggest that some people go see the thread metionned above by LaFille. Its got some good ghost stories.

This thread however is here for true horrific stories that the teller has lived through (or died through all you net-ghosts -- hahaha <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" /> ).

Like I said before it doesn't even have to be scary, just exta-ordanary.

So, here is a little one that I lived through. It's not scary at all. But damned if it makes sense.

I was at my grandpa's farm. He's of french decendence so we call him Pépé. I was just a little kid. My brothers and I were jumping back and forth between two couches in the basement. When it was my turn, the impossible happened... I jumped, and half way through the jump I hit nothing and fell backwards onto the couch I jumped from. It felt like I'd hit a wall of air. I went to check the air there... I put my hand out to the force that pushed me back... and felt nothing. What happened? I don't know. I bearly remember the event more than what I said. It was morning time if that matters to you. My brothers don't remember a thing of it because the were both very young. It makes you wonder what really is out there in the world... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

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this may sound wierd ut i've see ghosts and can hear them talking i have also seen UFO, i was scared but i was inside my home.

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I was 10 years old, and I still believed in easter, on easterevening I watched outside my bedrooms window and saw strange lights circling around above the clouds. It 5 lightcircles that didn't seem to emit light on the surrounding clouds circling around in a ... circle. Young and clueless as I was I decided the easter clocks were doing their job, I watched them some more till suddenly they faded away. Statisfied that I would definatly have eastereggs next morning I went to sleep.

But some years later I realised there are no easter clocks, and I tought back to that evening. Did I see a UFO or UFOs or did my fantasy play tricks on me...

I'm not making this up, I truly remember this. I tought it could be huge spots, but I also remember clouds drifting in front of them.


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A few years I've made a similar, yet totally different experience : Light in the sky.

It looked like dots of light circling under a cloud; it looked as if on the underside (the bottom) of a cloud there were dots which enlightened these dot-shaped parts of the clouds. And these dots were circling.

I found out that this was something man-made I hadn't expected : Someone invented some strange sort of party-light (at least that's how I see it), to enlighten an area during an event (party ?) in the night. This thing was constructed so that the light was filtered through a filter which has holes in it, thus creating these "dots" of light.

I still don't see much sense in this "machine", but I guess that it actually exists.

Will look for a link explaining it, but I'm not sure whether I'll find some ...

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When my husband and I were dating we decided to take a walk in the woods before meeting my family for dinner. We were walking in a dirt path and saw other couples around so we weren't too worried. As time went on, it started getting dark so we decided to go back to the truck. Unfortunately there were so many forks in the path that we soon got lost. There was no one around and it was almost dark, so we actually started looking for shelter.

All of the sudden a huge black dog was at the next fork in the path. I love dogs, so I went to pet it. It started growling and baring his teeth, which I have never had a dog do to me. We decided to take the opposite path and at the top of the hill, there was a road with traffic. When I turned around, the dog had vanished.

We ended up hitching a ride with one of the bypassers back to our truck. Still makes me wonder.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

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I don't have a new scary story myself, but three old books, the 'Scary Stories' series have alot of good freaky little stories that are the ones some people think are based on true chilling events. They are fictional, but the types of stories are similar to the ones we here are supposedly true. Check them out if you get the chance. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" />

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When I was six my family lived in a block of flats (6 storey building)!

There was some rumour going around about a guy with a mooses head, armed with a small hatchet, knocking on doors in the middle of the night and trying to get in.

My older brother was telling me its just something to scare us kids so we'd go to bed on time.

One night my parents were out and we were being babysitted by my uncle and aunt when there was a knock at the door. We were all in bed but still awake. Suddenly we heard some shouting and a scuffle at the front door. We jumped out of bed to look and there at the door was my uncle trying to close the door but couldnt because a mooses head was jammed in it. He kept hitting it until it gave up and he managed to close the door. We of course all screamed our heads off!

Anyway we all know it was some freak who was wearing a moose head (the type you see hanging on walls in hunting lodges) - but it's still a freaky image that I will never get rid of!

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I haven't experienced "freaky" things yet ... - but strange ones indeed ... I don't know whether I should tell them ?

Don't expect anything into the direction of horror ... just plain weird things ...


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Like I said several times: this is not to scare. This thread is for the unusual and or unexplainable events in your lives. The wierd. The crazy. And the scary.

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Was mine scary? No, just beyond a doubt incomprihendible. Something that makes you think WTF in the unabriviated sense of the word. So go ahead and share your odd story. I know I'd like to hear it.

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Here's another of my own. Its not scary or even too facinating. It wonders of precognision (the preseeing of the futur) in dreams.

I had a bad dream, Ok? It was about my basement being filled with living mummies. One particularily scary one was a devilish little unholy baby corpse.
I awoke from the dream, in my bed. It was morning. I ran through the hall and found my parents walking to their bedroom. I said, out of breath: "Mom, Dad, I just had a bad dream about mummies in the basement!" I was just a little kid then.
Then I awoke from the double dream, in my bed. It was morning. I ran through the hall and found my parents walking to their bedroom. I said, out of breath: "Mom, Dad, I just had a bad dream about mummies in the basement!"

Its understandable that I said the same thing, but in the same lighting? My parents walking to the bedroom the same way saying the same things? My encountering them at the exact same part of the hall? It makes me wonder...

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Isn't it possible you heard your parents when you were dreaming? I have had many dreams where things that were surrounding me as sound influenced the dream such as sound, voices, the morning breeze. My brother talked in his dream when he was younger, and I could actually steer it a bit, not to much. But for example when I said "What did you say?" he would infact repeat himself.

What I've also experienced quite some times is the illusion of movement and touch in dreams. For example a dream I had a lot is that I fell down some stairs and at the moment of impact I wake up but it feels like I fell into my bed.


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Those things Dragh says happen to me pretty often. I love to sleep, and I remember lots of the dreams I make.
Once when I was a kid something weird/funny a bit like that happened to me. I was sleeping on a mattress on the floor, beside my sister's bed in her room because there were works going on in mine. In my dream, I was in a kind of place like you see in old western movies, kind of arid & desertic landscape. I was laying (trying to sleep) under a kind of very low, sloping & proeminent rock making a bit like an awning over me, beside a campfire. Suddenly a humanoid creature's feet was sticking out from the top of the rock that I was under and was balancing in front of me, kicking me at times. I slammed it, punched it but the creature wouldn't take it off from there; so I bit it (!?!)... It's weird how much, in dreams, everything appears like normal... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> I don't remember anything of this dream after that, so I suppose that biting the feet worked to make the creature take it off from there...
On the day after, my sister discovered a bite mark (teeth shaped red marks) on her feet; she discovered it only by accident in the later day. No wonder how she got it, eh?
But the weird in all this (apart from making a such unusual dream) is that nothing of this had awaken any of us two, the biter neither the bitten! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />


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I'd just like to say that I have had points in a dream, where though not repeating themselves, a person will say the same thing to me that they said in a dream before I awakened.

The fact that the situation upon awakening is exactly the same as the one I dreamed may come from something close to precognition, but not exactly. I'll call it, an intelligent deduction. Lets say that your brain takes in some information as you sleep and are about to awaken (so a sound for example) and implies it in your dream.

Now, when you are dreaming, the speed of your dream can be faster or slower than the actual speed of time around you. For example: I can sleep and dream for 10 minutes, but the dream will seem like 10 seconds; or; I can sleep and dream for 10 minutes and the dream will seem like an hour. I've had this happen both ways, so don't tell me it ain't true. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />

So back to the original subject, maybe your brain takes in the information (sound) and prosesses a possible senario of what will happen next, and applies it in your dream. This could happen so fast (a dream of .5 seconds seeming like 10) that the real world will not have played out this senario before you finish dreaming and if your brain calculated it right, you will end up with a repetition of what you dreamed upon awakening. Maybe you dream the event exactly as its happening, your dream happens so fast that the world would seem to stand still, and you awaken to the event still just beginning to happen.

Bam! Mini-Precognition! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mage.gif" alt="" />

Hehehe... I should write a book on my lame ideas. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> Or are they... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

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I'd also like to say that I share the adventure of an illusionned of fall. But I'm not sure if you've ever felt it this way. In my dream, I am tiny, like an inch tall (2.2 ish centimeters, right?). I am on a wooden chair, then I fall off (a big drop for such a tiny guy <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />). I awaken feeling as though I actually lived the event of falling. But there is one distinction between my experiance and the common one. This time, I bounced a couple times like I had really fallen... and I mean BOUNCED capital B! No way I could have simulated it by shaking up and down in my sleep. One more mystery... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

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I once read that one might try to ask the protagonists in the dreams ... and maybe even get answers from them ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />



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On that subject, there are some sects that believe that if you ask a dying person (usually sacrificially hanged and choking to death) than they will be able to answer any question since they are linked to the after-life. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

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Sounds to me like the ingredients of a horror-novel ...

No, my remark was really meant to be so, without being scary or freaky in any way.


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Actually, they put the Cult-Hanging-Half-In-Death thing-y into practice in the movie "THE ORDER". I didn't like that movie too much, but that is a real cultist thing they showed (though I can't say it works... haven't tried it myself... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stupid.gif" alt="" />)

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Hey! AlrikFassbauer! You said you had some strange things to share! Comon! You got me interested so don't leave me hanging now! Exclamation mark! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/exclamation.gif" alt="" />

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I once read a book by a person named Heinrich Harrer about his time in Tibet.

The first pages I read, I felt such an intense feeling of hatred within the lines that I couldn't stand it anymore. I put the book away and have sworn to never touch it again.

Years later I learned that he was a Nazi.


A few days ago I learned of a person who had the exact(ly) same experience.



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if you fall in your sleep and hit the bottom from a great height you will or should die.
When you fall and wake up thinking you actually did fall or you are bouncing as if it happened,it means you're having an out-of-body-experience.It's sort of between sleeping and a coma.
Has anyone seen the film Dragonfly? It's quite freaky

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I once read a book by a person named Heinrich Harrer about his time in Tibet.

The first pages I read, I felt such an intense feeling of hatred within the lines that I couldn't stand it anymore. I put the book away and have sworn to never touch it again.

Years later I learned that he was a Nazi.


A few days ago I learned of a person who had the exact(ly) same experience.



Aye 'Seven Years in Tibet' - was also made into a film with Brad Pitt. I've not ready any passasges from the book though.

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"One night I looked upon my stair,
And saw a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today;
I wish, I wish he'd go away."

This is not a true story from what I know, but it is an interesting poem that may relate to some people and their personal events. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

I know someone who, upon taking off his glasses at night to go to bed, sees an old woman sitting on it. An illusion more than optical? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

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Aye 'Seven Years in Tibet' - was also made into a film with Brad Pitt. I've not ready any passages from the book though.


I don't think you'll sense it, because it might have been distorted by the process of translation.


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On that subject, there are some sects that believe that if you ask a dying person (usually sacrificially hanged and choking to death) than they will be able to answer any question since they are linked to the after-life.
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There is a book named - "Tibetan book of the Dead". Book that describes after-life and after-death in every little detail. Book with step by step instructions of what to do in and after death, it also gives clues how to avoid death. It also describes how to help the one who dies and goes through different after-death levels.

I think I even found it in internet. Hope it's the one I read many years ago.
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if you fall in your sleep and hit the bottom from a great height you will or should die.
When you fall and wake up thinking you actually did fall or you are bouncing as if it happened,it means you're having an out-of-body-experience.It's sort of between sleeping and a coma.
Has anyone seen the film Dragonfly? It's quite freaky


I have an explanation that, falling in your sleep is a memory. Very distant (genetical) memory that was recorded, and lived through by your grand-grand-grand-andmanymore-grand-father or mother. He or she was actually falling. And something happend that saved his/her life. So, they remembered it.

Why you fall and never hit the bottom? Those who hit the botton are dead and can't pass their memory to their kids. Thats it. I dont think you can die even if you hit the bottom in your dream. You survive, as your grand survived in their real life fall.

By the way, do you want to control your dreams? Ok, first, and the most difficult step, sounds very easy to do:

Find your hands in your dream. Just look at them.

That simple. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> If anyone EVER succeeds, let me know <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


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if you day dream before you sleep you dream about what happened in your day dream.

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Other ways to conquer dreams is to know that you are in a dream. Believe it or not, that is sometimes very hard to do. When dreaming, you are put into a situation that seems real to you, even though its very not.

To identify if you are in a dream, one thing that will give it away is a sudden inability to activate lights, or a sudden foggyness in your vision. A big scary monster is a nice give-away too, but by then your more worried about the monster than wether its a dream or not <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />.

For me, to exit a dream (once and if I've indentified it) is to shut my eyes tight (and I mean hard, like 'till it hurts) and then open them with extreem suddenness that should flip you out of the dream (though occationnally I get flipped into another, worst dream...)

Also, if you know you are in a nightmare, and you can't get out, then always keep an eye on someone you are with and trust (if you are lucky enough to be in that situation). Separation is a one way ticket to danger.

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@ Egin -> funny u mentioned about that when i read something similar to it in Ghost In The Shell: Man-Machine Interface (MMI) manga (which is comic).

the character in the manga disconnected her hands (her body being fully cybernetic) & logged into the 'net. if she could 'sense' her hand then she knows that she is still online. this is to prevent her from being unable to disconnect or disengage from virtual reality environment.

& as for trying to wake up from dream, what i usually do is force myself to shake so much (prayers help too) that i wake up from sleep. first is to shake the head then the body. not easy to do as u may not know if u're shaking your real body or dream body. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />



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I've known I was in a dream once and stayed in. It was cool, cuz it was a nightmare and then suddenly I didn't care anymore what happened, and I could do anything I wanted. IIRC I took a rocket launcher and shot it at some monster or something :P I was like 10 or something then, can't remember clearely.

Last night I had the worst dream in my life ever though.



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Last night I had the worst dream in my life ever though.

What was it? Often dreams are an outlet so you can stress less in real life.

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Other ways to conquer dreams is to know that you are in a dream. Believe it or not, that is sometimes very hard to do. When dreaming, you are put into a situation that seems real to you, even though its very not.


That's the main thing.
There are two different areas - comciousness and unconciousness. There is a little to no link between them.

That's why it is nearly impossible to look at the hands in the dream. Regardless of how hard you try telling yourself to do that, after you fall a sleep your mind shuts down.

When awoke we are concious, we use reason and logical thinking.

When we dream we are unconcious, this world is not working under the rules of reason and logics. Will dominates here.

Only if you have enough will then u can realize you are dreaming and then you can really do something to avoid situations you get in your dreams. Has anyone experienced dream when some bad things happening and you just stand still paralized unable to move or even think.

It is extremely difficult imo to realize in dream that you are dreaming. If you can do that then, provided your will is strong enough, you can change dreams.
Lews made a brilliant example:

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I've known I was in a dream once and stayed in. It was cool, cuz it was a nightmare and then suddenly I didn't care anymore what happened, and I could do anything I wanted. IIRC I took a rocket launcher and shot it at some monster or something :P I was like 10 or something then, can't remember clearely.


You don't care because you are free to do what you want to do plus events can not affect you anymore.

janggut, I think I mentioned the same things when we talked about first Matrix (the movie), because this is exactly what dreaming with strong will is.
And the Matrix starts with finding hands in the dreams <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Sorry, it may sound tricky or freaky. And my english restricting me from speaking more freely about these things.


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You wouldn't believe that my dream last night was bad, but it was horrible. You might not think its bad at all, but to me, for some odd reason it is stuck in my head and scaring the hell out of me. I'll explain if I see you on MSN or something.




Yeah, I've had 2 dreams where I realized it was a dream. One I was swimming across a lake, and these serpents were killing my friends. I realized 'wait, I am in bed, this is a dream.' Then suddenly I was like on an island and blew them all up. It was fun =)

The other time, I was in a room somewhere, with all these shadows about to kill me. Then I started riverdancing. Yep. Riverdancing. THey couldn't touch me then, so I realized 'this is so [nocando] up it must be a dream.' And I basically just started spinning through the air till I woke up.


Yes, my dreams are odd.



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[color:"pink"] Has anyone experienced dream when some bad things happening and you just stand still paralized unable to move or even think. [/color] Egin

good & bad. i won't say paralysed or unable to think. it's more like playback or shuffling of memory which can be very confusing or doesn't make sense. most of my dreams are like that. maybe my mind is defragmenting while i sleep. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> & got stuck somewhere as i have some bad sectors. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />



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Lews, in mexican art of witchery, when hostile spirits attack you, you dance and sometimes sing.

Every bruho (the one with the art) has it's own special "dance" and/or "song" you can only get it from your "protector" - friendly spirit.

This dance / song is used only in fatal danger, and yes, it may sometimes look like riverdance.

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Wow, I have 2 freaky stories that happened in my family. And we are going way too personal here but ok, here comes the first.

I was 6-7 y.o. Once, at absolutely ordinary evening I told my mother. Mom, I wanna light a candle. She was surprised and asked what for, but I couldn't explain. I just wanted to do this. (another irrational thing was that she refused) She didn't want me to do that. I insisted. Than I started to cry still asking to light the candle.

Finally my parents put me in bed. In a couple of hours they decided to check if i sleep well, and guess what I was doin? I was siting under my bed and looking at the candle. Noone knows where have i got a candle and matches from (we don't have a tradition to keep such things in kids rooms, but that's not a main concern, I probably stole that candle and matches from the cellar).

Next day a telegram came. My grandfother died (my mother's dad). The terrible thing was - he died absolutely alone (yeah that time when i wanted to light a candle) in his house and noone lighted the candle to escort his soul into heaven.
Well, now we know, that there was one person who did it. Another small detail - he died in Moldova - it's approx 3500km away from my homeland - Estonia.


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[color:"pink"] When you fall and wake up thinking you actually did fall or you are bouncing as if it happened,it means you're having an out-of-body-experience.It's sort of between sleeping and a coma. [/color] Catty

what about getting caught up in some kind of action in a dream; running, panic, climbing, exertion of force (trying to move forward)?

i had some kind of dream where i can see very violent storm just outside my window as i was lying on the bed & i can feel the house being hit by the very strong wind. felt like the house was shaken. i woke up in a panic & looked out the window only to see a very quiet & calm night sky.

maybe it's just anxiety for me. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

@ Egin -> indeed very freaky.

@ Lews -> makes sense that dreams don't make sense. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

@ HEF -> but for me the weird dreams made me even more stressful. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" />



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Know what one of the worst type of nightmares are <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/question.gif" alt="" /> They are very rare: When you are completely concious of the fact that you are dreaming, yet you can't escape or gain control. Then, things start seeming real because the base caracteristics of dreams are left behind, and you are living in an unconcious near-reality. Realistic things start happening, you have control of your thoughts, there is no fog of reality, and yet there is unnatural things that happen. You don't know what to believe in. You ask yourself: Am I dreaming this time? I think I've had this happen to me once, and it was like being calaustrophobic and in a box.

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Lews, in mexican art of witchery, when hostile spirits attack you, you dance and sometimes sing.

Every bruho (the one with the art) has it's own special "dance" and/or "song" you can only get it from your "protector" - friendly spirit.

This dance / song is used only in fatal danger, and yes, it may sometimes look like riverdance.

So, does it explain your dreams a bit? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Eh, sounds kinda weird to me. LOL. Fits with the dream though, which is kinda weird too.





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I reckon the worst ones are when you wake up and realise that it could be real. I had one dream a while ago that did this to me.

I was visiting a friend who had just moved into a new appartment. I had a kid with me who I was looking after. We stayed the night. The next morning I woke and was chatting with everyone. I spoke with the kid who told me how he killed one of the boys at school who had been bullying him. I could see the bully's corpse in the next room. The kid acted like this was the most natural of things, killing someone you didn't like.

I woke up feeling rather disturbed by this dream. Not only was the content disturbing, but I woke up agreeing with the kid. At that moment, murder was acceptable.

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HEF, maybe you was connetecten to the dream of another person ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

I hope some of you have read the link I gave above. It illustrates a view on "dreaming" which I find fascinating.

According to Huna, "everything is alive, aware and responsive". Also, everything dreams. This doesn't necessarily mean dreaming of animals and humans, but of things, too. THe actual "dream" is the realization of a thought-pattern into reality. So to say, according to Huna, things "are dreamt into reality", if the dream is simply strong enough. Ideals, for example, or great goeals can be such examples of "dreaming into life". One example could be the USA or Israel - influenced or even shaped by people who had a dream (Zionism, for example). Considering this, the "Dream Time" of the Australian natives gets a whole new meaning.

What's also important - according to that view - is that we are connected - all our dreams can be or are connected, but you only get to know them by chance or if the focus is distinct enough. So I could interprete your dream of the boy who murdered someone as such a connection of dreams : You accidentally got to know somehow his dream and its message.

The matter is a bit more complicated, but there aren't texts out there which I could link to for explanation. If you want more info, PM me.

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Another point I've foudn interesting is that "the boy" (the kid in the dream) is a recurring focus in my life, not just in dreams. Multiple people have told me that one of my spirit guides is a boy. I have seen him before, but I've never been able to communicate with him. I never think to listen out for him and I'm not entirely sure how to.

He has managed to communicate with me before through indirect means. At one point he got sick of not getting through to me and went to one of my friends instead to get her to talk to me.

I had a look in a dream dictionary:

Boy – About 8 to 10 years old. Kind of scrawny.

If you are an adult male and dream that you see or are a boy, then it suggests your playful, innocent, childlike nature. Alternatively, it can symbolize the immature aspects of yourself that still needs to grow. Your inner child may be trying to draw your attention to parts of yourself that you need to recognize and acknowledge.

Murder – I didn't see it happen, but I saw the result. The corpse was just dead, not mutilated or disfigured in anyway.

To dream that you witness a murder, indicates deep-seated anger towards somebody. Consider how the victim represents aspects of yourself that you want to destroy or eliminate.

Bully – The same age as the boy, a bit more plump like the bully's I had at school. Face down, almost out of line-of-sight in the room.

To see a bully in your dream, signifies repressed rage. The bully may be seen as your shadow Self which you have rejected.

Room – The room the bully's corpse was in was empty. This seemed important for some reason. The room was clean, had nice floorboards, was waiting to be filled with furniture.

To dream that you are in a room, represents a particular aspect of yourself or a particular relationship. Dreams about various rooms often relate to hidden areas of the conscious mind and different aspects of your personality.

To dream that you find or discover new rooms, suggests that you are developing new strengths and taking on new roles. You may be growing emotionally.

To see an appealing or comfortable room in your dream, signifies opulence and satisfaction in life.

To see a dark, eerie or confining room, denotes that that you feel trapped or repressed in a situation.

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It all seems to point at bottled up rage. I'm not sure what it is trying to tell me. I'm good at bottling up rage, have done for twenty years. At the time of the dream, I was dealing with a very bad breakup and had a lot of rage towards the ex-. Strangely, she had similar dreams about death and theft and the same sense of it not mattering.

I think the dream wants me to change the way I deal with rage, to evolve it. So do I keep control over my rage, control being different to bottling it? Do I cease bottling it and let it spill over? Do I keep a firm hold on it should it cause myself or others harm? The part that intrigues me the most is the reccurance of "the boy".

I'm curious how others interperate it?

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To put anger and rage into a bottle and then close it mught one day lead to an outburst. It looks for an outlet somewhere 8else) and you lose control over it.

Anyway, just now you want to control your rage ... - but is "bottling" the right way ? What do you do with all this pressure ? What will it (the pressure) do ? Especially when the bottle isn't safe enough anymore ?

It might come to an outburst, yes. That's what the boy in you did in the dream. He did - maybe - what you would like to do but never did - or never had the chance to do.

Maybe you could try directing it somewhere else, and not "bottling" it anymore until it outbursts uncontrolled ? Maybe you could lead this "energy" into something ? art, for example ?

Maybe that's what your dream wants to say to you ?

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You what I used to do to control anger? Write sarcastic and funnily angry critisisms about movies. Its actually fun, and what better way to remove anger than to express it in a way that is fun (and is not hurting anyone <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> - that can be fun too <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> ).

Of course you can do what AlrikFassbauer said and express your anger in art (visual, musical, dramatic, poetic, story...ic..., whichever!).

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I reckon the worst ones are when you wake up and realise that it could be real. I had one dream a while ago that did this to me.


I agree that such dreams are terrible as well. Especially when later on you can't remember if they really happened or not. Its just mind-boggling! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />
Sometimes, you do something terrible (not as terrible as what happened in your dream though, HandEFood) and your not sure if you should go say sorry or be embarassed somewhere (or with someone). "Did I do that?" It hurts to think so. It's so unlike you, yet it seemed so real!
A very embarassing side-effect of such dreams is to actually mention the event that happened in your mind to someone and they say: "What the heck are you talking about?". And then you feel like an idiot... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> No... this doesn't happen to me often... what gave you that idea?...

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Amazing dreams are the ones where you enter a familiar house and find it at least twice the size and full of new rooms that wouldn't have fit before. Usually I find something new and terrifying in each of these rooms.

For example, I dreamt that I was at the up-stairs of my grandmother's house. I was alone of course (what better way than to discover the unknown on your own <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> ). The first new room I entered was another bathroom which contained a corpse in the bath-tub. The second was a third bedroom where, when I looked out the window, someone choked me to near death.

Has anyone els had this sort of dream?

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P.S.: I wonder if I was really choking out of my dream. Was I tangled in my blankets? What would have happened if I couldn't've stopped the killer from strangling me? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

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I do remember lots of my dreams, and I am very active intellectually during my sleep. I can even sometimes wake up knowing the answers and my mistakes to an exam I passed the day before... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> But what I prefer about dreams is what it teaches me, mostly about myself, and how it help me to see clearer in some situations or about questionning I have. It is pretty hard to explain since it goes greatly with instinct and emotions, though. And my dreams always have a life of their own. I mean, what happens in my head during my sleep is never self-concious, bonded to my concious will. The learning I get from my dream comes from the reminiscence of it and from the reflexion I have about it when I awake. What you talked about earlier, trying things in your dreams, trying to be concious of your dreaming state or trying to wake up are unknown to me (it's highly interesting, though)...
I think that dreams that let very strong (good or bad, although it's most often bad <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> ) impressions have often a cause in our subconscious; it can be a kind of unconcious warnings, expressions of unaware or inhibited states, or a kind of outlet, release. Finding the meaning of a dream is so closely related to the individual that dreams it that it can't be interpreted by anyone else than the one who dreamt it imho; you'll feel it when you'll find what it means, if you come to discover it. And if you don't find it, at least it will have had the advantage to have made you think and open your eyes on other points of view & possibilities, wich can't be a very bad thing... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

[color:"orange"] Know what one of the worst type of nightmares are <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/question.gif" alt="" />[/color]

I don't know if there are really a "worst" type of nightmares; my worst ones are always related to real-life traumatic events. The context changes, but the feelings and "threats" remain similar. In these cases it wakes me up (confused, most of the times); then I only wait for the remaining disturbing feelings to calm down and I usualy can get back to sleep with not much difficulty.
I heard somewhere that we never do more than one nightmare per night. I don't know if it is true, but it proves to be right as far as I know until now... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

[color:"orange"] what about getting caught up in some kind of action in a dream; running, panic, climbing, exertion of force (trying to move forward)?

i had some kind of dream where i can see very violent storm just outside my window as i was lying on the bed & i can feel the house being hit by the very strong wind. felt like the house was shaken. i woke up in a panic & looked out the window only to see a very quiet & calm night sky. [/color]

It happens to me once in a while too (most often during bad ones). One that comes back is travelling in a car on a road beside a river/lake, and that, for any reason, the car leaves the road and falls in the water. I awaken suddenly, often with a reflex of trying to grip on something, being confused and quite dizzy by the brutal come back to the (much more stable) reality. I am often very confused when I awake abruptly; it might take a good amount of minutes to me for it to pass when it happens... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />
But the times when dreams like this appeared the most real is when I was "sleeping" while being sick, having a high fever. It happened mostly in these conditions that I dreamt of falling from high places, and the awaking was pretty shocking. It was doing like when we watch 3d movies in wich we have the impression to be on a plane or coaster ride, and that we become kind of dizzy because the brain is tricked by the eyes seeing that we move but the internal ear canals who rule the balance that sense that we're still. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

[color:"orange"] It all seems to point at bottled up rage. I'm not sure what it is trying to tell me. I'm good at bottling up rage, have done for twenty years. At the time of the dream, I was dealing with a very bad breakup and had a lot of rage towards the ex-. Strangely, she had similar dreams about death and theft and the same sense of it not mattering.

I think the dream wants me to change the way I deal with rage, to evolve it. So do I keep control over my rage, control being different to bottling it? Do I cease bottling it and let it spill over? Do I keep a firm hold on it should it cause myself or others harm? [/color]

How to deal with rage, anger or frustration is one of my problems too. Bottling it may be a temporary solution but it gnaws by the inside then; letting it go out with the impulse of the moment often makes big messes (word-for-word and not) that we might regret. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" /> I agree with Alrik's suggestion of channeling rage through something like art, though; sometimes it works for me.

[color:"orange"] Amazing dreams are the ones where you enter a familiar house and find it at least twice the size and full of new rooms that wouldn't have fit before. (...)
Has anyone els had this sort of dream? [/color]

I often dream of familiar places that happen to be very different in my dream than what they are in reality (most of the time it is whole cities and big areas between wich I traveled a lot during a while). It's often much less sinister than your dreams, though <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> but it's as irrationnal. Once in a dream we had discovered that taking the longest road to go from one place to another was in fact a shortcut that was allowing us to make the travel in 30 minutes... The usual road takes two and a half hours by car and going by the "dream's shortcut" takes 5 hours in reality. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

One of the weird things with this dream is that I sometimes make other different dreams that are taking place in this exact same modified familiar places... Does it happen to you sometimes to have dreams that are the continuing of/that are related to a previous one?


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Does it happen to you sometimes to have dreams that are the continuing of/that are related to a previous one?


Yes this does happen to me often enough. I'm one of those people that often have nightmares (almost never good dreams <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> - probably because I bottle up much of my own rage... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> )

One of the ways that the related-dreaming happens for me is that I'll have a nightmare (like I said; no good dreams) that will go for a while, then stop. Lets say that the nightmare goes through acts 1-3. Next I'll dream the same thing, but acts 1-4. Then 1-5. Etcetera. Eventually, I will come to a extream conclusion after hours of nighmare torture. I say hours because I'll have the dream the same night, over and over, resulting in a half insomnia.

heard somewhere that we never do more than one nightmare per night. I don't know if it is true, but it proves to be right as far as I know until now...

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I heard somewhere that we never do more than one nightmare per night. I don't know if it is true, but it proves to be right as far as I know until now...


As I showed before, this proves wrong for me.

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I agree that another terrible and cruel type of dream includes real-life trauma that could happen. One that I personally hate is one where my brother dies. Feeling that sorrow may not be just as strong as the real thing would be, but I can say it sucks big time.

The one that scarred me the most is when I walk around the corner of a street at night, following my parents, only to find them brutally murdered by a masked mugger with a gun. He chased me for a bit, gaining. Apparently he decided not to use his gun, and to take out his long knife. When he got too close I turned around to kick him in the balls, only to miss and hit his left leg (this was years ago, and I remember this dream well). Then he stabbed me with the knife throught he stomach. The pain was like nothing I felt before.

That brings me to another fascinating fact about dreams: that you can feel things in there, that you've never felt before. I can't say that I felt the actual feeling of being stabbed (I've never shared the actual experiance) but I felt something the was beyond anything els, to this day.

So, another dream I hate: the ones where I feel extreame pain I can't escape. Another example is one where some "Frankenstein's monster" creature takes my leg apart, muscle by muscle, peice by peice (peices that probably don;t even exist <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> )

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Some times I get dreams that I know I've had before, so I know its a dream. But then I go, wait, maybe I am dreaming that I dreamed before. Hmmm....



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Captain: Stand strong sailor, even when things look their worst, there is still hope. Besides, it hasn't been sinking too long yet! What are you worried about?
Sailor: I'm worried about all that water leaking in Sir!
Captain: Then get a bucket and drain the water! We can still use this cork to plug up the leak...

Well, that little short personifies some pointlessness. Yes I know, I just wanted to right something that can technically be considered humorous, so what? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />

Ok, so the point of this is, I'd like to open this thread to all of the supernatural, and not only personnal experiances. Talk of Nessie, Big-foot, what you think, etc. Ghosts, possetions, the boogeyman, whatever! Scary movies even, though that may belong to another thread (if so, notify this one <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> ). Whats your opinions and theories?

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I'm sure most people have heard of the feeling called "déjà vu" (which some people pronounce "day-jah-view"). Its when you have an experiance that you feel like you've already had before.

For example: you walk into a museum for the first time.. yet it feels like you've been here before. Then you hear people next to you talking about something... then you think up the next words of their conversation just as they're saying them as if you've heard it all before. Co-in-ka-dink? Maybe.

Well I'd just like to say I've felt déjà vu many times before, but lately... I've felt something bigger. I don't just feel like I've gone through the experiance before, I KNOW it! I'm serious here, for those of you readers who are rolling their eyes at the crazy person. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

For example, I know I've had a dream that was exactly the same as a scene in the movie The Brothers Grimm. That wouldn't be too strange... if I hadn't had the dream at least four years ago !!

This has been happening in and out, mingling the weak déjà vu with this newer deffinitivement vu (deffinitivement=deffinantly for non french speakers). Anyone know what it is? Maybe I'm seeing the futur in dreams years ahead of the experiance, and by then I partially forget them... or maybe this is just a new improved déjà vu that is simply stronger and nothing more. I'm personally leaning toward the first thing. I know I've seen these things before.

Unbelievable?
Belive it.

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