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Re: "Men are animals" [Re: Barta] #311976
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Manamels...invertabroads....can't we all just get along!!

Re: "Men are animals" [Re: Plowking] #311977
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well...
since im male i guess i should just kill myself and commit sucide
since the majority are rapist, all of us males must be bad people and rapist too
all the new childeren that are innocent and happy are bad people and ratpist too
hell kill them too

cause their male and the majority can die

I got this out of the conversation, if this is not what is intended please clarify cause im all ears. Further more it frightens me as to why you think that & if an all female hate group condemns the majority of males based on faulty logic. Then i condemn society. I believe that society will not last long with thoughts like those, and thus to hell with society cause if i should lose faith in you, then i should lose faith in society.

Virgo~The righteous & sensitive


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Re: "Men are animals" [Re: Virgo_Bluefire] #311978
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But it's true that they don't force females who don't want to have sex.
Thats not true, everybody who have a more than one Cat, or have many Cats in the neighborhood knows that. And in the Nature it is normal that the new pascha kill all young animals who are not from him.


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Re: "Men are animals" [Re: Stone] #311979
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Thats not true, everybody who have a more than one Cat, or have many Cats in the neighborhood knows that.



Really?

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And in the Nature it is normal that the new pascha kill all young animals who are not from him.



I don't know what a pascha is, but it is true that it is something common for some species. I was mainly thinking about sexually mature females in what I said.

I can always be wrong; my appologies if it is the case.


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Re: "Men are animals" [Re: LaFille] #311980
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I don't know what a pascha is



I guess Pascha is an arabian title something like Sultan.

Barta

Re: "Men are animals" [Re: Stone] #311981
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While there are many men who are indeed ratbags of the worst kind, the vast majority of us are not.

There have always been extremist Feminists with an anti-male agenda, and this is nothing new, nor anything to really get upset about, IMO. Feminism has done a lot of good things for women, but the agenda has not always been about equality, and that has been obvious for a long time, I think.

Just as misogynism is nothing new in men, so hatred of men is nothing new in women. Similarly, abuse is not just a one way street.

I like to hope that we as a species will someday outgrow the horrible things we do to each other.

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In nature, there are many forms of sexual abuse, from packs of male dolphins who hold females prisoner when they are in heat (A recent discovery, and a quite appalling one, IMO) to female spiders who decapitate their partner during intercourse and eat him afterwards (Something thankfully not practiced by even the most fanatical feminists ). Nature is often not very nice to her children of either sex.


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Re: "Men are animals" [Re: Elliot_Kane] #311982
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I refuse to be drawn into this debate (except for this little post) as I respect Barta far too much as a person.


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Re: "Men are animals" [Re: MeaCulpa] #311983
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I refuse to be drawn into this debate (except for this little post) as I respect Barta far too much as a person.



@ MeaCulpa

What do you mean ?

@ All

Alrik opened this topic about "Men are animals".
Was he expecting that everybody would say the feminists are extremists and men are perfect angels ?
I gave my opinion clearly : i don't agree with the feminists because a lot of men are nice people but too much men act like pigs.

This topic is a discussion, if each member can't give his/her opinion, no need to open a topic.
Or the first person answers and the other ones say "i agree".

I guess that all of the men of this forum are perfect gentlemen.
If some of them have been shocked by what i said, i am not sorry, because it is the truth.

It was my last words on this subject.

The end
La Fin

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Re: "Men are animals" [Re: MeaCulpa] #311984
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Mother cats whit youngs will kill any kittin that's not hers, that's why you should not touch the youngs of a cat that doesn't know you. If she smells a strange sent stronger than hers she'll kill it. Not all cats do this but it's a risk.

Fact some animals do "rape" but still it's different, males will choose a female and try to do it, the female will resist, because she wants to test if the male is good material. but far from the rape we know.


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Re: "Men are animals" [Re: Draghermosran] #311985
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I can't read the whole thread people but I need to say this :

There are horrible men but equally there are horrible women in this world. So I just love the GOOD people of both kinds. And I hope that someday humans will become wiser and stop hurting each other.


You can have my absence of faith
you can have my everything...

Re: "Men are animals" [Re: Draghermosran] #311986
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Svar till:

If some of them have been shocked by what i said, i am not sorry, because it is the truth.




At least it's the truth as you see it .

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Re: "Men are animals" [Re: Ubereil] #311987
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I once read about a novel, which I found very disturbing : Men used by women as kind of slaves, only for reproduction (by the way, what's "procrastinastion" ?), used like milk-cows only for their genetic material ... since there are several million sperms in the part of one man, you only need very few of them ...

My idea later was that of a feminist genetic engineer who tried to make women into selvf-reproducing beings ... men no longer needed ...



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Re: "Men are animals" [Re: Ubereil] #311988
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In Antwort auf:

@ All

Alrik opened this topic about "Men are animals".
Was he expecting that everybody would say the feminists are extremists and men are perfect angels ?
I gave my opinion clearly : i don't agree with the feminists because a lot of men are nice people but too much men act like pigs.

This topic is a discussion, if each member can't give his/her opinion, no need to open a topic.
Or the first person answers and the other ones say "i agree".

I guess that all of the men of this forum are perfect gentlemen.
If some of them have been shocked by what i said, i am not sorry, because it is the truth.

It was my last words on this subject.

The end
La Fin

Barta





I do complete agree with you, Barta, here, sad that you stop the discuss now where it is going interesting.
But i can understand this, some reactions have not really the distance a discussion like this need. But at last these reactions are a part of the community we move in. And so i see no reason to stop now for me.

But, i must say this, yes. Yes, this Topic is a try to say men are allways perfekt Angels. That is what i told my Love every Day
I`m a good Stone, a lovely Stone, an Angel.
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But she dosn`t belive that i wonder why


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Re: "Men are animals" [Re: Barta] #311989
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In Antwort auf:

In Antwort auf:

I refuse to be drawn into this debate (except for this little post) as I respect Barta far too much as a person.



@ MeaCulpa

What do you mean ?

@ All

Alrik opened this topic about "Men are animals".
Was he expecting that everybody would say the feminists are extremists and men are perfect angels ?
I gave my opinion clearly : i don't agree with the feminists because a lot of men are nice people but too much men act like pigs.

This topic is a discussion, if each member can't give his/her opinion, no need to open a topic.
Or the first person answers and the other ones say "i agree".

I guess that all of the men of this forum are perfect gentlemen.
If some of them have been shocked by what i said, i am not sorry, because it is the truth.

It was my last words on this subject.

The end
La Fin

Barta






The problem is balance.

Nothing more, nothing less.

By the way, polygamy exists in the animal kingdom in both directions : males with many females and females with many males ... if I remember correctly, the ostrich is an example of the latter.



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Re: "Men are animals" [Re: AlrikFassbauer] #311990
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Barta...

I don't entirely agree with you, as I think is obvious, but I think this discussion will be much poorer without you. Please don't feel put off from contributing

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Lucretia...

I couldn't agree more

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'Procrastination' is to keep on delaying doing something you know you SHOULD do.


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Re: "Men are animals" [Re: AlrikFassbauer] #311991
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One of the best books I've ever read is a book called "The Shore of Women" by Pamela Sargent. It's set in the future after a big war, caused by men. After that war, women threw men out of society (because it was too dangerous to have them in it), and forced them to live like pagans, while they lived in a high-tec world. They fooled the men to worship them as goddeses, and took them into their enclaves where they took their sperm for reproduction. The story is about a woman (acually they're two, mother and daughter, not sure of the wholse story now, anyway they're both thrown out) who has murdered another woman, and is thrown out of society as penalty (it's not really a deathpenalty, they're just not supposed to die in the wilderness). The mother dies, but the daughter manages to get herself into a tribe (who think that she's a goddes) who supports for her. At least one of them, a young man, who has fallen in love with her, and tries to "win" her (he really cares for her though, think nothing else). She's horrified, she's grown up in a society where hetrosexual love is looked upon as sick (men in general is looked uppon as sick, so...).

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Re: "Men are animals" [Re: Ubereil] #311992
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speaking about cats, yes, that much is true when the male cat feels that the litter of kittens sin't his then he will kill them off. sad but true.

@ EK -> maybe Barta has said her piece so she has nothing else to say?



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Re: "Men are animals" [Re: janggut] #311993
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speaking about cats, yes, that much is true when the male cat feels that the litter of kittens sin't his then he will kill them off. sad but true.

@ EK -> maybe Barta has said her piece so she has nothing else to say?




Entirely possible, Janggut

I'd hate for her or anyone else to feel their contributions were unwelcome, though, and the impression I got from reading her last post - wrongly or otherwise - was very much that she felt her views were not being respected.

I'm sure she will correct me if I am wrong


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Re: "Men are animals" [Re: Elliot_Kane] #311994
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This thread is kinda insulting...

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please don't feel that way, nero. as far as my manhood is concerned, i feel no insults nor threats. this thread is to enlighten what has happened & what are we to think of the issues. sweeping it under the rug won't help any of us.

unless i misconstrued your meaning.



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