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Kiya's divinity will be gone soon #358161
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Raze, sorry to bother you - but the server I hosted kiya's div on is going bankrupt. My domain is sadly paid until Dec 2009, but I doubt, they will be on that long.

To add to my calamity = in Dec 2006 my PC died, all info is lost. My new one has nothing about Div or Divdiv. What to do?

I'd have prefered to do this in private messages, but your limit butted in \:\)
Kiya



Re: Kiya's divinity will be gone soon [Re: kiya] #358163
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@Kiya,

I really hope that you guys will find a solution - I have countless times benefited from your maps and descriptions - so I keep my fingers crossed.

Re: Kiya's divinity will be gone soon [Re: The Endless] #358165
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While it's still possible, get all your data from the server \:\)

Re: Kiya's divinity will be gone soon [Re: kiya] #358168
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Sorry about your computer; I know how that is (the hard drive in my first computer died as I was getting ready to do a long-overdue backup).

I tried a few website downloaders awhile ago to save my PMs, so I would not have to sort through them all or simply delete everything. The program that came closest to working properly has since been updated, but I have not gotten around to trying it again. I checked with UBB.threads, as well; apparently in slightly newer forum software versions you can email PMs to yourself one page at a time (which would loose the index and still be a bit of a pain).

If necessary, the website downloaders I tried should work fine to get everything on your Divinity site (the company should be able to send you any lost passwords, though). I guess what to do after that depends on the size of the site...


Kiya;
If you enable private messages, I can PM you, and you can reply (I can just not receive new PMs). When I tried sending you one, you got dropped from the list of participants (no error message was given).

The Endless;
I sent you a PM to see if I could still send them, and then deleted it; I'm not sure if it will still show up for you.

Re: Kiya's divinity will be gone soon [Re: The Endless] #358176
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 Originally Posted By: The Endless
@Kiya,

I really hope that you guys will find a solution - I have countless times benefited from your maps and descriptions - so I keep my fingers crossed.

The same goes for me. I really hope there is a way to save your website somehow, to find different hosting perhaps.

And Kiya, now that you're back, you won't leave again, will you?


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Re: Kiya's divinity will be gone soon [Re: Macbeth] #358179
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Maybe good news: Yesterday or this early morning I could "mirror" the website von Kiya but I could look if something missing (first sleeping, now working).


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Re: Kiya's divinity will be gone soon [Re: Xanlosch] #358183
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Hi Kiya, nice to see you again Hope you are doing fine.

It would be a pity to loose all your nice work. If there's somehow a way to save your data/images, I will run your website, it's too precious to let it go.

@Xan: if you have found a way how to download everything, please let me know.

Thank you,
Lynn

Re: Kiya's divinity will be gone soon [Re: Lynn] #358189
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Lynn, I do post "my way" not in a private message because somebody else could need this information too.

First of all: my way is the Linux way! I searched for a good program / tool to download a whole site without to do a lot. It is not easy but I found one. It is called HTTrack and its works not only on Linux :P It should work on Windows too but I doesn't used it on Windows. Downloading a whole website takes a time (Kiya's page take 24 minutes) because HTTrack works like a web browser but doesn't stress the website server much like other programs / tools.

If hosting is a "problem" I could but the whole site on my webspace too (3 GB space, 100 GB traffic).


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Re: Kiya's divinity will be gone soon [Re: Lynn] #358190
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If you can't connect with FTP, then you still can get the visible stuff with HTTrack.

Re: Kiya's divinity will be gone soon [Re: Merendrious] #358191
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Euhm... that's what Xanlosch was saying, right?

Ok, Xan, let me know via email then ;\) About hosting, it's like you wish. I just wouldn't want that page dying...

Many thanks for your help

Re: Kiya's divinity will be gone soon [Re: Lynn] #358192
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Damnit, the page got update while i was surfing a bit around :p

Re: Kiya's divinity will be gone soon [Re: Merendrious] #358197
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Kiya, I still have access to part of your FTP site from when you setup an account so I could upload fixed saves, etc (before Shaw doubled their webspace per email and increased the number of email addresses per account). I can only see the 'fixsaves' and 'Hackman' folders, plus a bunch of BD screenshots and subfolders. Assuming you can change my access to include DD as well, I can easily get a copy of everything on the DD site. Xanlosch has already used HTTrack to get all the visible stuff, so unless you have things on your site that are not linked to directly or indirectly from your main webpage (ie old or prototype page versions, files linked to in the forum, etc), FTP access may not be needed.

Re: Kiya's divinity will be gone soon [Re: Raze] #358234
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@Raze - your PM did show up on my list.

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I tried HTTrack again and got it to download all my PMs, so was able to delete everything in the forum.

Now I can receive messages again.



If anyone is interested, I needed to log out of the forum, fill in the username / password to log back in, and then use the URL capture function in WinHTTrack before clicking on the button to log in. After logging in again in my browser, I used the URL capture function a second time switching to the 'My Messages' page. In order to keep the program from downloading the forum, going through the user list, etc, you need to setup a Scan Rule to exclude URLs containing 'ubb=' and then after that, setup an include filter for URLs containing 'ubb=viewmessage' (which will get the PM index pages as well as the individual messages). You may want to exclude .zip and .exe files to avoid downloading programs you recommended to others (or vise versa), especially if you check off the option to get non-HTML files related to a link (ie for avatars); you can also set size limits, etc. I set the maximum external depth to zero so the program would not download other webpages, and left the maximum mirroring depth un-set to make sure it went through all the index pages. I think the only other thing I changed from the default was to set the html footer to 'none'.

When the program is done you may have a list of errors (due to broken links from old homepages or avatars, etc). If you leave the Build option set to the default of 'site-structure', you may want to sort through the folder structure WinHTTrack creates and delete any empty folders or those containing just html error messages from an expired avatar or screenshot link. There are also options to store html files in one folder, and all images in a specific subfolder, which may be neater (the way the forum links are done, the html files all get put in the same folder anyway).

Re: Kiya's divinity will be gone soon [Re: Raze] #358280
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So,

I backuped Kiyas site on my webspace and the site is accessable under this url: http://www.xanlosch.de/kiyas_crypt/

Please, do not mirror this site (or my whole site) - ask me and I send you a zipped version.

If Kiya do not want this (hosting on my site) - I will remove it.


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Re: Kiya's divinity will be gone soon [Re: Xanlosch] #358282
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Kiya nice to see you around again! Hope we'll see a bit more of you and you won't run off again!

Hope something get's worked out, it would be a shame for all that hard work to disappear.



Re: Kiya's divinity will be gone soon [Re: LewsTherinKinslayer13] #358289
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Kiya --- you are missed.

Xanlosch --- good work saving the site. \:D

Re: Kiya's divinity will be gone soon [Re: flixerflax] #358367
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Hi, all - thank you for the support - and you have my permission, Xan/Raze/anyone wanting to preserve. Raze, I can't even access lycos admin anymore, I forgot all my passwords. After Xmas I have holidays, so can try to get into the dark materia again *blush*.

Lycos will close within the first quartal 2009 - so far, I have no other info. Trouble is - my new PC has nothing... literally nothing installed on it = no graphic program, file uploading etc. So, I need to delve into my old books and dive into all my boxes, cupboards etc in search of my lost knowledge; including passwords.

Should lycos succeed in finding a partner to take all the hosting members = I am not even sure how that will work. Do I need to download and then upload - do I need to change all links within the site etc. Atm I even doubt anyone is willing to take us refugees up, as Lycos made over 17 mio debts within 9 months this year.

Will keep you updated \:\)
Kiya

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Does Lycos have a webpage to log in to your account? If so they should have an automated feature to email you your password (though that may not help if you don't still have access to the email account they have for you). An email to Lycos' support may also help, though they may be slow or unresponsive under the circumstances.

If you email/PM me I can give you the info I have for your FTP site. That may aid in getting full access back.

Some FTP sites and programs support transferring files directly between sites. If either Lycos or a new web host do not support this, you would need to download everything first and then upload it to the new site. There are programs that can adjust links, etc, if required (your HTML editor probably used relative links, though, so there should not be a lot of adjusting required). If Lycos finds another company to take over webhosting fully, the transfer could be done by them directly, so you could just need to fix the odd thing (like non-relative links and any listed email address).

Re: Kiya's divinity will be gone soon [Re: Raze] #358371
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My Counter Strike Clan uses WS_FTP ( http://www.ipswitch.com/ ) to send each other movies, music, and games. I believe that you should be able to use it, or a similar program, to automatically download all the information from your website and store in on your computer, maybe even loading it up again to a new website. Not sure what all the program does, but if it does actually work like that ( I'm pretty bad with computers so not entirely sure, Raze do you know if it can do that? ) I can send you the full professional version of it.

If not, and you need a place to keep it all, I can open up 500 different freeweb accounts and transfer the information there! Yeah okay I'm useless I know lol.

Still, glad to see you're still alive and I hope you're doing well Kiya.



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I have not used WS_FTP, but any FTP program will let you upload and download from FTP sites. I have not needed to do any site to site transfers, though, so I am not sure how common that feature is in current FTP programs (it shouldn't be too hard to find if it is needed... and supported by both webhosts).

A couple freeware programs I've seen recommended are FileZilla and WinSCP. Personally I've used LeechFTP (which is getting a little long in the tooth), but mostly stick to the FTP function built into an older version of the PowerDesk file manager (a freeware, but lesser featured alternative is FreeCommander).

Re: Kiya's divinity will be gone soon [Re: Raze] #358930
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Hello, I was just reading this here, and I would've recommended HTTRack, too, but someone else was faster than me. ;\)

If there's need for help, I think I could ask around at RPGWatch. Arhu is there, too.


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Re: Kiya's divinity will be gone soon [Re: AlrikFassbauer] #358955
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For now you can find Kiya's website back at the following URL

@Xan: will you keep on providing the data under this link? Then I can start updating the broken links, many thanks.

Re: Kiya's divinity will be gone soon [Re: Lynn] #358957
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Yes, I will keep Kiyas page under this link except somebody has a better name :P


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Thanks!
Some links will be broken in the forum now, you can always notify me of those and I'll take care of updating those.

In the meantime I have updated the links at the fansite-pages:

Divine Divinity fansites
Beyond Divinity fansites

It's cool to see that so many DD and BD fansites are still up and running! \:D

Many thanks,
Lynn

Re: Kiya's divinity will be gone soon [Re: Lynn] #358984
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Great to read that the site will remain up. I used it a lot, for help and cool extra information about the game.


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Re: Kiya's divinity will be gone soon [Re: LewsTherinKinslayer13] #359884
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Try this one - you should be able to move all your website to a new one on http://hosting-unlimited.co.uk - they are not the cheapest on the market, but they are certainly reliable.


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Re: Kiya's divinity will be gone soon [Re: Lynn] #360693
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 Originally Posted By: lynn
For now you can find Kiya's website back at the following URL

Link to the page "Teleporter.html" does not work..


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Re: Kiya's divinity will be gone soon [Re: Lord Arkey] #360694
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That link was a placeholder for a page under construction (there should be a mouse-over tooltip to that effect), which never actually got constructed.

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Hmm.. Clearly! \:\)


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I managed to get this game reinstalled recently but it's been a long time (my most recent saved game is dated in 2006) and I don't remember much, but I do remember how awesome kiya's site is/was.

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Wow, I forgot to actually ask my question. I was going to ask if anyone had kiya's site still up because clicking on Xanlosch's link wasn't working, but now it is. Must have been my connection earlier.

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Last year while I was playing divine divinity your site helped me so much.Now I began again but I can't enter your site pls reopen it.İt was the best guide.

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Larian.com? It's the umbrella site for this forum so must be working? Maybe I just didn't understand the question.

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I was talking about website called Kiya's Divine Divinity

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