Larian Studios Forums Beyond Divinity (English) General My favorite part of the FAQ.

dunno if this was prevously confirmed before today (although we knew it was prolly coming), but this was very nice seeing.

also, the party members will be sweet and hopefully this is the first step to multiplayer in the next <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> game.

Mine is:

Features...
A deep and detailed storyline filled with plot twists and lots of sub-quests.

As a semi plot-twist freak, I hope they live up to that! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Ditto.

Because, face it, the storyline of DD isn't all that twisty.

Ok, this is wrong place, but I don't want to start -the most hated part of FAQ post-, I hate rating. Teen rating is <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/down.gif" alt="" /> . I know, that rating can be serious obstacle to marketing and to sales, but,

may I ask Larian first:

Have you done any research on audiences, playing DD? Who are they, teens mostly?

Looking into this forum, at least at active members, I think, the majority are adults, can I say 25+ ? In this case, can new game be, hmm, a bit more mature, you know all these jokes and stuff, like political jokes? Bacause, choosing audience, like 12+ you choose approach, humour etc. I just don't want Riftrunner look like SuperMario.
Sorry, I didn't want to offend any of the readers.

Just curious.

PS BTW, I forgot, what rating DD had?

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

As an adult (fresh but nevertheless <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />), I do think Super Mario rules! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Ok ok, RPG has dragons! Wiiii dragons rule! - Go Yoshi! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

speaking as an older, wizened orc....... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" />
it's ALL fun....till someone gets poisoned! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />

I actually thought there was a lot of political depth in Divine Divinity. If you talk to the commoners, a lot of them have intriguing things to say about their status in society. There are also a lot of insidious political backstory at work in Divine Divinity, especially with respect to Duke Janus, whom I thought represented quite a number of bad rulers. The part about the royalty and nobles getting richer and richer while the poor continue to starve really struck me as sly social and political commentary, and I loved Divinity all the more for it.

I doubt Riftrunner will look like SuperMario. I have this personal suspicion that it'll feel more like Planescape: Torment (perhaps not exactly though), since it takes place in a demon dimension. I thought DD took a lot of great inspiration from Baldur's Gate II, which I also appreciated.

By the way I'm 19, still a teen. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

I didn't say anything about DD.



As PST fan, I very much hope Riftrunner will have the storyline camparable by deepness and impact.



My musings were based on FAQ about rating.

I had to check isrb.com before answering you Rose.

PST, IWD, DD, all have T (teen 13+).
Diablo has M (mature 17+).

Actually, what I thought about category -teen- is in category -everyone-, my mistake.

Well, I kind of thought that since Larian, the same company that brought us <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> , is making Riftrunner, that it would contain about the same quality of writing, graphics, and gameplay as DD. I could be wrong, as game companies have deteriorated over time, but I don't think that's likely to happen here, since Larian apparently listens to its fans (I love the suggestion forums). Anyway, it's too early to tell yet about RR, so I was spewing off about DD to illustrate what it did right and what could be done in RR. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> was rated 11+ in the benelux.
and i didn't see any childlish gameplay in that game.
even at stormfist casle , you hear that Janus a 12 year old brat has orgies and sexgames. Did you read the letter to his girlfriend? spicy stuff <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

soo don't worry , it wil not be Freddy fish <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

And how bout the "love" house in Verdistis?
Not really teen in my opinion - well i guess if you are Brintey Spears or that Argulara (Sp????) chick.
I guess teens are just older faster than when i was....so maybe the ratings have changes as well.
I can tell you, if i had kids, i would not want then playing DD at ten or thirteen (sorry - i guess i would be over protective...)

MAture? Like Diablo? yes, that would be better. Thou I didn't see anything bad in Divinity. Though Janus 'orgies, sexgames, adn the note Yes, it should be mature in the new one. Riftrunner and DD2.

are we going backwards in time, or what? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

it's a just a game for chrissakes !
maybe i just don't get it, but
i think not! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Naw, we're going forward in time. Nowadays too many young kids play video games, so if a game company writes for them there would be no lust-filled politically-deep and morally-atrocious storylines for adults! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> We can't have that... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ohh.gif" alt="" />

not at all dare i say! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

You learn that stuff from school anyway. er..um .....*cough*.......what the heck am I saying ...*cough* <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shhh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shhh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shhh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shhh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shhh.gif" alt="" />

or at least you should be it all depends on what school your going to!


Quaker High?

So, it seems peeps here have different positions:
1) make games available to everyone, with no hot stuff at all - ebrd rating E (everyone)
2) Make games for adults with political jokes, lust, blood etc - rating M (mature)
(Do not mix this with A (adult))
3) Something between 1 and 2, to be able to sell wide and still have some adult content - rating T (teen).

What game do you guys wanna see?

PS BTW, Rose, forgot to tell you yesterday, to be specific, you are not teen 13+, you are already mature 17+, <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

4) A (adult) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />

I hate rating systems........... 10 years from now, instead of having A they will have AA. People find the need to just define almost everything about life even the most sacred parts. Lets put a label on that because I have the power blah blah blah........

In any case teen (2) should be fine just as it was on the first product right? Its not like their capable of making the game super different if it were rated anyother way except if it were rated E (1). If by bad luck and chance that it's E then the game will replaces death noises with "ouch", "I think im dead", "thanks for killing me and peace on to thee" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> I mean come on "pow", "boom", "smack" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />

er um don't take me seriously *cough* <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />