hey i was thinking that they should make some kind of special shields for archers, something where they can put on their arm, the bit between the elbow and hand but they don't have to be as good as the normal shields, jus something to boost your armor a bit, something light. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

i saw this when i went to a show where they were 2 people horseriding and had bows, they took shots in shooting each other and they managed to block the arrows <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />, so maybe they can deflect other peoples hit, pretty kewl.
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

thats a great idea...

yep all ideas are good by me (cept this is my first and only idea...) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> maybe i should shut up

[color:"orange"] maybe i should shut up [/color]
Why???
I mean if you don't come up with an idea how are ppl going to know about it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/question.gif" alt="" />

lol, i meant i should stop boosting and gloating about my ideas when i only have one idea, lol

Doh!!!

Einstein only had one idea .... to start with <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Vulgar, now we're going to expect more and more ideas out of you, so you'd better keep them coming! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

I love the idea of an archer's shield! It could be a small round shield with a vertical slit from centre to top. The shield attaches to the bow. The limited vision through the slit would reduce your Offence rating slightly to compensate for the Defence bonus on a two-handed weapon. Great idea! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Hah! I played a PnP Game called RoleMaster some years back and persuaded the dm to let me make a couple of weighted rods that I could clip on the bow for a + attack rating, this worked fine but understand that things like shields or my 'rods' take away from the Agility you need to wield a bow expertly, so it basicly meant that the increment of attack after the Agility Penalty came down to ... well square one, aside from the fact that it cost me a pretty bit of gold.

So sure you could have a clip on mini shield with a defense bonus of 10 % but what if your accuracy becomes worse???

then your going to have to shoot more arrows

simple <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

hmm should i start posting my ideas in the beyond divinity suggestion forum, since hardly anyone is actually reading in the divine divinity forum

Exactly! The penalty for a shield is less combat ability. For melee characters, using a shield means not using a two-handed weapon. So a bow user would be penalised due to increased weight and limited vision. On the other hand, they would have a better chance of survival should the foes come close or fire arrows back at you.

so in the end its like this (a summary)

1 handed weapon with a shield: normal damage, normal accuracy n normal armor
2 handed weapon with a shield: less acurracy, same damage n more armor

Yeah but that is fairly basic, the less accuracy might mean you miss alot and then you would have to draw your melee weapon anyway cause the enemy is too close <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

then i gues you gotta look for somewhere to keep running lol or have som potions in hand

simple <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

A totally different thing which popped just now into my mind is, to combine a round shield with a bow in such a was, that the middle point (the center, actually) of the round shield is the point where the arrow comes out.

It's quite difficult for me to explain what I mean, but I hope you've got the picture. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

that would look weird, a bow with some round thing, wonder how can actually aim without seeing the target? lol <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> you would have to make it a small shield, otherwise you cant aim for peoples.... well actually mens <cough> lol

after just writing that, i just thought of this why don't rpg include crotch armors lol <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />

yep its v.basic, but it helps basic people like me <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />

That's sort of what I was thinking. I wasn't thinking a permanent attachment, but that's certainly possible. I was thinking of a circular shield with a vertical cut from top to centre so that you could load the bow and sight through this slit. It's like a portable arrow slit.

More like if you just wore the shield on the arm that holds the bow...buckler style between the wrist and the elbow. Archers are kinda jipped for armor.

that is the piont (i recon) of light cros bows coz you only need 2 hands to LOAD it with <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
and only 1 to fire

is this like Deja-vu all over again?? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

or was this not already mentioned months ago...
it's funny cuz i remember thinking the same thing last time...
and i like the idea too! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />
when the heck was that??.... 6 months ago... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

Ummm... Try mid-January. Check the post dates. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

could you makit like dynasty warriors 2, their is a group if asians that have hats that defect arrows...lol thats funny... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

um. ooook. intresting.... what the bloody hell! there is a specific SKILL that does that. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

oh well, stil pretty funy

LOL, Still better then my level 5 poison gas cloud pants <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

So why not have a item that can do that too? There's both skills and items that increase your armour or damage. If they have unique items, they could add specific skills like that built into the items.

This is my opinion of what an rpg Archer should be

Archers shouldnt be able to wear more armor, since any piece of armor restricts their movement. If you are to shoot a bow, you need to have your arms weight free, if you wanna aim properly. But in return archer SHOULD have is better criticals than any class (like he IS aiming more than any other class) and armor piercing capabilities. Giving archer an shield or heavy armor, just kinda misses the whole point of being an archer. But its understandable why players wouuld want more armor on archer, since ususaly the nature of rpgs games favour meele combat, since there is almost always you against hordes of enemies, and arhcers usualy dont have much range. But come to think of it, archers just dont seem to fit in single player non party rpgs. in life, arhcers were tactial back up, almost useless on their own. Blah it seems making games its hard <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

i agree. archers or snipers are more useful in a third person shooter game.

You guy's and gales know about those little silver like shields those and the small wood shields that are at the begining they look like an arm-like shield but they need to be alittle bit smaller!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />