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Posted By: Jack_Bauer Dead is dead, or isn't it - 08/08/03 01:19 PM
Imagine this: In the heat of the battle you tragicly lose your life <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> and your last safe is a couple of hour old and you had just found that one weapon that completes your set. Now <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> theire is nothing that you can do. I would like to see that changed in <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" />. What I am saying is you should be able to get back to life, but not for free theire must be a penalty (loss of items, skillpoint, exp,level , reputation...). Sure it wouldn't be used much but it can help some crying moments. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />

What do you guys think <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/question.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: DEATHATTHEDOOR Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 08/08/03 02:24 PM
NO! NO! NO! NO!
No respawning. Simply NOOO!
I say, if there will be respawning, I am not buying the game no matter the rest. I hate respawning, no matter of the games quality/type.
Posted By: Jack_Bauer Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 08/08/03 02:32 PM
Youre probably wright. Maybe some sort of automated saving that saves every 10 minutes, I'll call it autosave.

Jack looks down 2 thread and says DOH <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: DEATHATTHEDOOR Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 08/08/03 03:11 PM
How can you propose an idea and disagree in the next 5 mins? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Jack_Bauer Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 08/08/03 03:12 PM
Beer <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devil.gif" alt="" />


Beer the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems
Posted By: DEATHATTHEDOOR Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 08/08/03 03:20 PM
Ahh! Magical answer to the question of life, universe and everything. 42 cans of beer... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Shyon Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 08/08/03 03:51 PM
Maybe something like this Bauer:

http://lariancom.siteprotect.net/ub...Main=62182&Search=true#Post63844
Posted By: Jack_Bauer Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 08/08/03 03:56 PM
I love it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Shyon Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 08/08/03 04:00 PM
As i said, is better you have a chance of be ressurrected using a rare weapon than you don't have any chance. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Jurak Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 08/08/03 04:06 PM
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Imagine this: In the heat of the battle you tragicly lose your life <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> and your last safe is a couple of hour old and you had just found that one weapon that completes your set. Now <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> theire is nothing that you can do. I would like to see that changed in <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" />. What I am saying is you should be able to get back to life, but not for free theire must be a penalty (loss of items, skillpoint, exp,level , reputation...). Sure it wouldn't be used much but it can help some crying moments. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />

What do you guys think <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/question.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


nice post jack <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> brings back some ?(good)? memories <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


yes <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> you can get your life back, but for a hefty penalty.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" />


it will cost you the last two hours of your game,
AND <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> that special item you've found...
....it's called reload, latest save!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Shyon Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 08/08/03 04:26 PM
No Jurak, this is just for Divinity, maybe now to found rare itens they don't use the same system of Divinity, cause everybody can get a Dragon Armor Set for example, maybe could be like Diablo2, when you ask: How i get the grandfather sword? Kill, kill, kill and kill, you don't have a specific place to get a weapon, and if have is like divinity with random stats.


One thing what i disliked in Divinity is this, everybody can get the most rare itens, with luck or not, even if these itens have random stats, this don't help much, you'll always find the dragon glooves on a determined place, you'll always have chance to get it.

I think something more random with porcentage to found itens, would be better.

This for me is a bad point in the game, cause when you start a new game you'll always get the same itens just with random stats. Sometimes somebody found a test iten, like the Razortail bow, and the sword what a guy mentioned another day, but the rest is always the same weapons.
Posted By: LewsTherinKinslayer13 Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 08/08/03 09:59 PM
if I remember, we had a huge discussion bout this a month or so ago.
Posted By: Soulflyer Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 08/08/03 10:01 PM
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Posted by DEATHATTHEDOOR
NO! NO! NO! NO!
No respawning. Simply NOOO!
I say, if there will be respawning, I am not buying the game no matter the rest. I hate respawning, no matter of the games quality/type.


Now that's a nasty attitude ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: DEATHATTHEDOOR Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 08/08/03 10:04 PM
Thanks.
Posted By: Jack_Bauer Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 09/08/03 01:57 AM
Thats why his alingment is EVIL. Would some one please think of the children
Posted By: DEATHATTHEDOOR Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 09/08/03 03:21 AM
Especially evil ones.
Posted By: DAD Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 09/08/03 03:46 AM
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Thats why his alingment is EVIL. Would some one please think of the children


[color:"red"] The children shall inherit the earth. [/color] <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

I agree that an auto-save could be helpful but technically speaking it could be disastrous in the middle of a slash and hack battle. There is no guarantee on when the timer resets.

The Larian game-engine keeps track of story development in story.000 and story.001, which may be the answer to the problem.

The death of the hero should trigger a special event that pops up a story history window from which you may pick a point back in the past to restore your game. Those history points are chosen by the game engine regarding the hero coordinates being inside predefined safe zones and considering the gained achievements as well. Therefore, you would see a list of time stamps {Osiris_Type} with a comment that includes the name of the place and your last achievement there.

I know it can be done but it may not be implemented in RR because it is a fundamental programming change that might consume valuable time for a sooner release.
Cheers.

Posted By: Jack_Bauer Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 09/08/03 11:31 AM
What about 2 autosaves? You realy have to be an idiot to screw 2 saves up.

Jack looks at himself

Better make it 3

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Edna: Seymore, you are selling short the children's futures
Skinner: Edna, both you and I know these children have no future!
(gasp as students hear)
Skinner: Prove me wrong children, Prove me wrong.
Posted By: DAD Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 09/08/03 11:47 AM
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What about 2 autosaves? You realy have to be an idiot to screw 2 saves up.

Jack looks at himself

Better make it 3

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
The number of saves makes no difference Jack, it is whether the very first one was allowed to complete or not before the application is terminated. <wink> <wink> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shhh.gif" alt="" />

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Edna: Seymore, you are selling short the children's futures
Skinner: Edna, both you and I know these children have no future!
(gasp as students hear)
Skinner: Prove me wrong children, Prove me wrong.


Yes, indeed, I myself did this trick before many times and guess what it works perfectly.
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


Posted By: Morbo Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 09/08/03 01:36 PM
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The children shall inherit the earth.


Stop joking about that that's <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> scarry <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Shyon Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 11/08/03 01:18 PM
Dead thing once time is nice, but if you die and you found at the same time a very rare item, what you can do? Just load and lost the item. But is more challenge in this way(dead is dead).


I don't know if this will have in Riftrunner, but if one of your chars die(divine or deathknight), the other char can ressurrect the dead char?



And i still think all the itens in the game can't have a determined place to be found.
Posted By: Viper Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 11/08/03 02:16 PM
what about being to ressurect when you're dead with a loss of exp. say that you haven't saved a long time and don't wanna do some stuff again, just resurrect and you're only on a different location with less exp.
Posted By: joliekiller Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 11/08/03 02:22 PM
And you have the option to either ressuruct or reload. Something like nwn. If you choose to ressuruct, you lost exp and iirc some gold. Or you could load your last save.
Posted By: DEATHATTHEDOOR Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 11/08/03 02:24 PM
A proposal which might leave both sides happy:

On easy difficulty you can ressurect. On hard you cannot.
Posted By: Shyon Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 11/08/03 02:41 PM
Riftrunner - you have two chars right? When one char die what happens? The other char can ressurect the dead char? Or the souls(spirits) are conected and when one die the other die too?


Or we'll see this just when the game'll come to the stores?
Posted By: Morbo Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 11/08/03 03:19 PM
I think that one char dies of the soulforged chars the other one dies too.
Posted By: DEATHATTHEDOOR Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 11/08/03 04:26 PM
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I think that one char dies of the soulforged chars the other one dies too.

Yes, I fear it is how it's done. Otherwise by logic the deathknight/main character would've killed each other.
Bravo, Jack (I liked that name better ;0).
Posted By: Morbo Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 11/08/03 04:30 PM
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Bravo, Jack (I liked that name better ;0).


Yes but with Futurama cancelled, I must keep the names of the chars alive(My other nickname is Malfunctioning Eddy, but it takes to long to type <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> ) on this forum. I miss futurama <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: DEATHATTHEDOOR Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 11/08/03 04:50 PM
Since I don't watch TV, I didn't know Futurama was cancelled. I watched it before and now that I know it, it saddens me!
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Morbo Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 11/08/03 05:41 PM
Last episode ever was aired this weekend <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: janggut Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 12/08/03 09:51 AM
option like how it is in NWN is good. lose XP & new-found item or reload & try again. which is why i always save whenever i got me a great item. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: HandEFood Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 13/08/03 03:40 AM
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Last episode ever was aired this weekend <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />

But that's what DVD is for!
Posted By: janggut Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 13/08/03 04:07 AM
dang right, with season 2 dvd set out as well. check out dvd.ign.com
Posted By: Morbo Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 13/08/03 05:48 AM
Yes, but futurama is like the simpsons, sure you like the endless repeats over and over and over and over again, but a new episode is always better than a reapeat (execpt for the previous season of the simpsons that was BAD) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: janggut Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 13/08/03 06:10 AM
well, as the thread says; dead is dead. so no point crying over it. a bit of good news. david x cohen(u know who) is considering futurama: the movie.

u should try animation of a diffrent flavour: anime. ask shyon & u'll be provided with a wealth of info. tachibana shyonime.
Posted By: DEATHATTHEDOOR Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 13/08/03 12:17 PM
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well, as the thread says; dead is dead. so no point crying over it. a bit of good news. david x cohen(u know who) is considering futurama: the movie.

u should try animation of a diffrent flavour: anime. ask shyon & u'll be provided with a wealth of info. tachibana shyonime.

Run, ex-Jack, run! When they drag you into anime, there's no way out!
You'll try even to learn Japanese! [link was posted way back but it's appropriate for Jack].

Better to go read some graphic novel.
Posted By: DAD Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 13/08/03 03:12 PM
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You'll try even to learn Japanese!


That link was extremely hilarious.
HontoNiOkashiKatta. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Dakedoo OmoshiroiDeshita. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Jurak Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 13/08/03 03:39 PM
knew you'd like that one dad! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Morbo Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 13/08/03 06:28 PM
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Run, ex-Jack, run! When they drag you into anime, there's no way out!


Morbo gets his fat [nocando] from his laptop and goes running crazy in the street. Sreaming :"The lord of Chaos is comming, prepare yourself " <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

I hardly think that futurama is anime <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />. yes it's an animated show <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stupid.gif" alt="" />

damm "[nocando]" I am just reffering to the bottom on with you sit <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/memad.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: LewsTherinKinslayer13 Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 13/08/03 06:31 PM
futurama??? that thing from the simpsons?? not as good, but still, pretty funny.
Posted By: Morbo Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 13/08/03 06:35 PM
Have you seen the last 3 seasons of the simpsons. It's horrible 3 seasons long of : The simpsons are going to "Fill in country or state". While futurama was on the rise, the simpsons were falling. Face it the simpsons are dying(or on life support) and no one can save them not even the writhers of futurama that went back to the simpsons.
Posted By: faile Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 13/08/03 06:59 PM
we need conan back!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Morbo Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 13/08/03 07:01 PM
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we need conan back!!!


Conan O Brain????
Posted By: faile Re: Dead is dead, or isn't it - 13/08/03 07:04 PM
well, conan o'brien, yes. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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