Larian Studios
Honestly what were you thinking? The game is not difficult it plain cheats. I have played Baldur's Gate, NWN, and every other game like this and I have yet to see one so poorly done.

The game is not just difficult it cheats, the AI is saving against everything, I am saving against nothing, even leveled, with points in defenses. I am permanently CCed, I am missing attacks with 77% or better chance to hit 75% of the time. r

You can click the ground next to an enemy by MISTAKE so easily its not even funny, your character will walk around wasting movement points. The game is atrocious as it is.

I am going to call off my friends on buying this one. Not sure what happened during development but this is really really terrible.

When you buff up enemy saves....I mean wild hogs....resisting every CC imaginable....mages NEVER getting physically knocked down...when you do this is breaks the game in every believable way. It becomes a point where the abilities and skills DO NOT WORK!!

And it only is a big insult when the AI can pull off every spell with no way to miss or have a failure. This game is downright horrible. I cannot begin to express by frustration and disappointment at this game. Good lord I am going to write steam about this one.
Wow man. I had some trouble in beta but nothing like what you're experiencing.

I don't think the game cheats. I've made plenty of saves against poison, knockdown, stun, etc. And I've had plenty of luck in knocking down enemy mages, soldiers, etc.

What is your party made up of? That could be part of the issue you're having. Some parties are going to have a more difficult time than others. Maybe you need to adjust yours to fit your playstyle.

Also, if you're clicking on the ground by mistake and moving I think you're playing to quickly. The cursor has a noticeable change when you are going to execute any kind of attack. A little patience is probably called for here.
Seeing as how this "issue" isn't echoed elsewhere on the board, maybe your game is experiencing bugs?

Also, a part of the strategy is preventing the AI from ever being able to CC you in the first place...
That's right, go ahead and blame the game for you failing to play it.

Fact of the matter is that your arguments hold no water when literally thousands of people are doing just fine.

Maybe you might want to consider investing some more into the primary stat relating to the skills you want to use to increase their chance to work. Every rank in willpower or Bodybuilding gives about 10% resistance to its listed effects, if I remember right.

The game doesn't cheat if you're playing on normal, it just uses its normal balancing. Which in itself is supposed to be fairly harsh and force players to think a bit about how to tackle each and every encounter. Easy cheats in your favour while Hard cheats in the AIs favour.

Not that the game is without its faults, buuut... Blame the player, not the game...
Originally Posted by EinTroll
That's right, go ahead and blame the game for you failing to play it.

Fact of the matter is that your arguments hold no water when literally thousands of people are doing just fine.

Maybe you might want to consider investing some more into the primary stat relating to the skills you want to use to increase their chance to work. Every rank in willpower or Bodybuilding gives about 10% resistance to its listed effects, if I remember right.

The game doesn't cheat if you're playing on normal, it just uses its normal balancing. Which in itself is supposed to be fairly harsh and force players to think a bit about how to tackle each and every encounter. Easy cheats in your favour while Hard cheats in the AIs favour.

Not that the game is without its faults, buuut... Blame the player, not the game...


I'll echo EinTroll here. The game has issues, but they're not the issues you're experiencing.
Originally Posted by Kaelis13
Honestly what were you thinking? The game is not difficult it plain cheats. I have played Baldur's Gate, NWN, and every other game like this and I have yet to see one so poorly done.

The game is not just difficult it cheats, the AI is saving against everything, I am saving against nothing, even leveled, with points in defenses. I am permanently CCed, I am missing attacks with 77% or better chance to hit 75% of the time. r

You can click the ground next to an enemy by MISTAKE so easily its not even funny, your character will walk around wasting movement points. The game is atrocious as it is.

I am going to call off my friends on buying this one. Not sure what happened during development but this is really really terrible.

When you buff up enemy saves....I mean wild hogs....resisting every CC imaginable....mages NEVER getting physically knocked down...when you do this is breaks the game in every believable way. It becomes a point where the abilities and skills DO NOT WORK!!

And it only is a big insult when the AI can pull off every spell with no way to miss or have a failure. This game is downright horrible. I cannot begin to express by frustration and disappointment at this game. Good lord I am going to write steam about this one.


Mad Cause Bad.
Originally Posted by Kaelis13
The game is not just difficult it cheats, the AI is saving against everything, I am saving against nothing, even leveled, with points in defenses. I am permanently CCed, I am missing attacks with 77% or better chance to hit 75% of the time. r
That's how chance works, 75% is not equal to 100%, however your mind think it is. That's how psychology works you see a quite high chance of success and therefore you expect it to succeed and get frustrated and feel cheated when it doesn't.
Actually there are studies of this and iirc the majority of people expect a 75% chance of success to succeed >95% of the time.

Originally Posted by Kaelis13
When you buff up enemy saves....I mean wild hogs....resisting every CC imaginable....mages NEVER getting physically knocked down...when you do this is breaks the game in every believable way. It becomes a point where the abilities and skills DO NOT WORK!!
I frequently knock down enemies, not all the time but often enough, don't know what you are doing wrong.

Originally Posted by Kaelis13
And it only is a big insult when the AI can pull off every spell with no way to miss or have a failure. This game is downright horrible. I cannot begin to express by frustration and disappointment at this game. Good lord I am going to write steam about this one.
Try spend a few points in Body building and Willpower.
I've misclicked once or twice, and agree that "hitbox" detection could be tweaked a bit. I've also noticed some enemies being curiously resistant to status effects, but for the most part I've been getting good results on knock down, burning, freezing, and slow. I don't think any of these "issues" are game breaking.
Topic is absolute trash - what were you thinking?

Just try to understand the game mechanics before you insult the developer. If you're not good enough try harder or play on easy.
there is one thing i can agree with: its really easy to click behind an enemy on accident wasting X AP.. but everything else is just luck. Enemys resist alot of CC but not everything. Same goes for the Party.
lol.

"I am going to call off my friends on buying this one."

"Good lord I am going to write steam about this one."



Very easy to understand you are either a troll seeking attention or a 13 year old brat expressing frustrations for being terrible at a video game.


You did make me smile tough, thanks smile

Maximum resist an opponent can have is 50. So if your knockdown has 50, it will 100% fail... if however you use the 110 knockdown instead, you suddenly have 60% chance.

Nothing to do with cheating, all to do with reading the log and properly playing the game...
Originally Posted by EinTroll
That's right, go ahead and blame the game for you failing to play it.


Well, this game doesn't have a controller, so he can't blame that.
Originally Posted by Kaelis13
Good lord I am going to write steam about this one.


TIP: Save the time, it won't do anything.

They have games that have been abandoned in EA and they do nothing about it.
Options -> Game -> Difficulty "Easy"

There you go.
I've had a few instances where I click through an enemy. It's usually when they do a sudden animation as I click 'em. Hilariously, one enemy with the Weak status seemed like he actively ducked my curses when I went to click. Metagamin' punk enemy!


But really, if you're having issues targeting enemies, I suggest slowing down and watching their movements to avoid it. Best solution, though, is to just hit B and flip to the top-down camera with highlighting. Way easier to target and stuff. laugh
Originally Posted by Jito463
Options -> Game -> Difficulty "Easy"

There you go.


That might hurt his ego. Can't have that in the "Participation Trophy" generation.
Originally Posted by Hassat Hunter
Maximum resist an opponent can have is 50. So if your knockdown has 50, it will 100% fail... if however you use the 110 knockdown instead, you suddenly have 60% chance.

Nothing to do with cheating, all to do with reading the log and properly playing the game...


Some would argue there is no wrong way to play a game, that every decision should result in success for the player because that is what "fun" is.

I don't subscribe to that school of thought, but as I said, some certainly do and in my opinion, it is that line of thinking that has resulted in bland games that lack challenge or thought.
LOL
Strange post from the OP. It seems like you haven't take the time to understand the game mechanics.
The first time I played, I had very bad fights and I was crushed by AI. But I took time to read the tooltips and to find fights that are the same lvl as me.

Having played 44hours now, I have yet to find the AI to "cheat". It will "cheat" if you try to fight a monster 2 or 3 level higher than you, which really by reading your post - it seems like this is what you are doing. Perhaps the game fail to show you correctly that a higher monster level is a big difference.

This game is really not like Diablo where you can turn your brain off. You need to read and think of what you do.

For the missclick where your char move isntead of attacking - I admit this is annoying. You need to quicksave (F5 key) often. Sad really for a turn base game. But avoidable.

My first 3 hours of the game I was not really happy with the game. But after a while the game kicks ass.
OP is a scrub tactician.

Lets have a mod that deactivates all NPC abilities to stfu these shitty players.
not everything he says is correct, but the fights are very unbalanced at the beginning.
miss,miss, immun, miss,immun, miss,miss...
it is very annoying.

i'm playing now on easy ( normally i'm never playing on easy ), because the combat system sucks.
I don't know when i last saw/played such a unbalanced, class depending game.

but thats the problem if you can create every possible "class".

and everybody who thing this is bullshit. play a poison/bleeding group at the beginning. hf

Edit 110% blind (+10% bonus) misses ...
The difficulty on normal is just right, enjoyed every single hour of my so far 35 hours played. Unfortunately there will always be people buying a game who expect something else than what they're getting, then they'll complain that the product is not the game they expected. That doesn't mean theres anything wrong with the game, only the expectations of the player.
I expected a throwback to oldschool rpg's and thats exactly what I got - Ultima VII vet here smile
Originally Posted by Tanist
Originally Posted by Jito463
Options -> Game -> Difficulty "Easy"

There you go.


That might hurt his ego. Can't have that in the "Participation Trophy" generation.


I do recall the beta thread on that, one about the name Easy is insulting, don't change anything but just the word to "Casual" I do believe it was.

This is why Pride falls under Deadly Sin.
Originally Posted by Zaxth

I expected a throwback to oldschool rpg's and thats exactly what I got - Ultima VII vet here smile

i played/beat Chaos strikes back with one char.
Thats says nothing.
Originally Posted by Stalkingwolf
Originally Posted by Zaxth

I expected a throwback to oldschool rpg's and thats exactly what I got - Ultima VII vet here smile

i played/beat Chaos strikes back with one char.
Thats says nothing.

Well, I beat the original DM as well, but Chaos Strikes back was a step back on many levels, but lets not turn this into an e-peen contest right smile
Besides those games had, apart from being rpg's, nothing in common with D:OS. Ultima VII has.
Originally Posted by Kaelis13
Honestly what were you thinking? The game is not difficult it plain cheats. I have played Baldur's Gate, NWN, and every other game like this and I have yet to see one so poorly done.

The game is not just difficult it cheats, the AI is saving against everything, I am saving against nothing, even leveled, with points in defenses. I am permanently CCed, I am missing attacks with 77% or better chance to hit 75% of the time. r

You can click the ground next to an enemy by MISTAKE so easily its not even funny, your character will walk around wasting movement points. The game is atrocious as it is.

I am going to call off my friends on buying this one. Not sure what happened during development but this is really really terrible.

When you buff up enemy saves....I mean wild hogs....resisting every CC imaginable....mages NEVER getting physically knocked down...when you do this is breaks the game in every believable way. It becomes a point where the abilities and skills DO NOT WORK!!

And it only is a big insult when the AI can pull off every spell with no way to miss or have a failure. This game is downright horrible. I cannot begin to express by frustration and disappointment at this game. Good lord I am going to write steam about this one.


"Skyrim casual plays a cRPG"

Back2Skyrim m8
I feel this is a classic case of remembering the exceptions. Gambler's fallacy? Maybe not the correct term exactly, but pretty much.

You miss "all the time"--do you really? Or is it because like everyone else, it's easiest and most significant to remember the exceptions? For every time you missed, you probably hit just fine many, many times.

Truly random doesn't mean perfect distribution, but it is commonly mistaken to be so. Instead, there are many clusters of seemingly improbable events.

Originally Posted by Stalkingwolf
i'm playing now on easy ( normally i'm never playing on easy ), because the combat system sucks.
I don't know when i last saw/played such a unbalanced, class depending game.

but thats the problem if you can create every possible "class".

and everybody who thing this is bullshit. play a poison/bleeding group at the beginning. hf

Edit 110% blind (+10% bonus) misses ...


And yet, countless players seem to be doing just fine on normal. And it's probably important to remember--110% of something I think means, given no resistances, you will, absolutely without question, apply the status. There's a difference here: it means you don't fumble. When someone has less than 100% success at casting something like Fortify on themselves, you will every so often see, "Fumbled on applying Fortify" or something.

100% means on your end, you will cast it successfully. But why is your blindness being resisted, then? It's like D&D--saving throws. Your foe has Bodybuilding or whatever, that gives him X% to not be affected. That's what you're encountering, failure at the other end. Again, you are guaranteed a successful cast, but you are never guaranteed successful application to another person.
To the OP:

I absolutely adore the game. Easily the best game I've played since Arcanum. It does things that make me smile at least once every 10 minutes or so.

That said, I guess it's to each their own. I'm sorry you can't find a way to enjoy this kind of game, but lucky for you there are tons of action RPGs floating around that will probably be more up your alley.

slç–‚nte
Why do you guy always fell obligated to respond to obvious trolls?

DON'T FEED THE TROLL.Just ignore the thread and it will go away.
Originally Posted by dlux
Why do you guy always fell obligated to respond to obvious trolls?

DON'T FEED THE TROLL.Just ignore the thread and it will go away.

We're masochists.




Oops, I did it again... oops
This just seems to me like a classic case of QQ Noobism.

Only thing i can prescribe is ignoring it and it will go away.
Originally Posted by Stalkingwolf
not everything he says is correct, but the fights are very unbalanced at the beginning.
miss,miss, immun, miss,immun, miss,miss...
it is very annoying.

i'm playing now on easy ( normally i'm never playing on easy ), because the combat system sucks.
I don't know when i last saw/played such a unbalanced, class depending game.

but thats the problem if you can create every possible "class".

and everybody who thing this is bullshit. play a poison/bleeding group at the beginning. hf

Edit 110% blind (+10% bonus) misses ...


I miss a bit in the early stages, but not excessive. I haven't played on anything but hard. Judging by my performance on hard, normal seems like it would be easy. /shrug
Originally Posted by dlux
Why do you guy always fell obligated to respond to obvious trolls?

DON'T FEED THE TROLL.Just ignore the thread and it will go away.


Trolls are very susceptible to fire. Notice how the OPs thread has burst into flames!

I have to agree with the TC. They really overdid it on the difficulty level. Most of the time you face more than 4 enemies who have more AP, more skills and more CC than your party. Skeleton archers are for me the main cause of frustration as they can easily fire off an AoE or a CC shot and then attack normally in the same turn. Certain melee skeletons can move and attack three times, taking off 75% of your party member's health, which is unhealable. If you're lucky, you may CC two enemies in your first turn, but that leaves you with 3 more pounding on you.

I get what Larian was trying to achieve, but they made the game punishing instead of difficult, because enemies apparenlty play by different rules than the player characters.
The game on normal is... just normal, I would even say easy, and with qs available all the time there is no irritation with repeating the combats (Blackguards...). I can't believe all of you are complaining about difficulty. Tank with 2h weapons, archer(archer+water mage(healing)) and fire mage - this trio make the game friendly even for casuals.
???

I'm deep in Luculla and I have no trouble charming monsters or knocking them down. As for the miss-clicking (which IS a problem), if you suspect that it could happen, use the NPC cards at the top of your screen; problem solved.
I think it is a fantastic old school RPG!

Nowadays the most RPGï½´s are designed for a maximum playerbase, with a lot of help functions and simplified skill systems. The motto is "more playing, less thinking".

Playing is not wrong, it is a game. But when there is no challenge because there is nearly nothing you can do wrong, no choices and no necessity to know the gameworld, the foes and the playable and non playable characters it is more like an interactive movie.

So the decision to make the game "oldschool" was absolutely right in my eyes, and a lot of people waited for a game like that, and supported it to reach a final status (I am no backer, so thanks to all the people who spent money for that!).

So to answer the thread question; Goddamn NO! ;-)
Originally Posted by Stalkingwolf
Edit 110% blind (+10% bonus) misses ...


Check combatlog... notice lvl of "willpower" of target... profit.
It's not that hard a skill to learn people. Not even takes RL-skillpoints wink
Originally Posted by Stalkingwolf
not everything he says is correct, but the fights are very unbalanced at the beginning.
miss,miss, immun, miss,immun, miss,miss...
it is very annoying.

...


Ever played with 1st level characters in D&D? Now, THAT's a miss-fest.

Problem is, I can't even complain nor defend D:OS, because it's still only available on stinkin' steam... frown
Originally Posted by Kaelis13
I am missing attacks with 77% or better chance to hit 75% of the time.


This made me laugh.
© Larian Studios forums