Hi , i want ask if the Drow armor and clothing we see in DnD comics and stories that feature Drows will be added ingame , I know there is a leather set of drow armor but that doesnt look like what we commonly see used by drows. They use black skin tight armors with spiderlike ornaments and sometimes it has a lot of body revealing parts. We have no such thing in BG3 even though we see Drows and the Underdark. The New Drizzt video shows some of the armor I'm referring to. Also some drow weapons wouldn't hurt!

I don't know if there's a such thing as 'authentic' drow armor. The aesthetic varies from edition to edition, artist to artist. For what it's worth IMO what Larian has made is a bit unique in the styling, but falls broadly into the general aesthetic-and looks good too. Fingers crossed for some heavier armors though-drow used light chain armor a lot in the books and previous editions-I know chain shirts are pretty rubbish compared to 3rd edition, but some medium armor would be nice to see.

Also, some of the older styles of Drow armour from the older editions were borderline fetish gear. Artists are understandably moving away from that whole aesthetic.

But don't worry; if skin-tight over-sexed revealing 'armour' is what you're after, you can absolutely guarantee that the mod community will have you covered, likely in a half dozen different ways.

I wouldn't mind seeing the Drow armor changed to be more shadowy and fitting to their aesthetic, could even give them the property that if worn in sunlight they will disintegrate in X rounds to match the lore of Drow weapons and Armor doing that in sunlight.
And while I can see good reason to move away from the more fetishy armors of the older edition, there is likely a place for them, in particular if we fight a true drow matriarch or priestess as it would fit into their aesthetic totally, and any male and female fighters directly under their command would likely have the more fancy symbolic and therefor more fetishy armor.

I believe i have seen simmilar topic around here ...
I was called "We demand more sexy armors" ?

Agree, don't need that in the official game. The op lost me at revealing.

Also agreed. Fantasy art and illustration has come a long way since the creation of DnD. And artists these days are moving away from the overly sexy armour styles for good reason.

I'm sure for those who want it, there will be options for that style in the game and in mods... but personally I try to avoid sexy, revealing armour on my fantasy characters as much as possible. My characters are there to fight and look like it - not shake their booty on the battlefield.

I think we will see a lot of good variations of armor after release, not to mention the incredible armor that comes with mods.

Why does skin tight, or showing some skin all of a sudden translate to over sexualized? Seriously, have we become a society of puritans? There is a major difference between form fitting, with some skin showing, and over sexualized. Its ironic if you think about it, the original women's movement was to allow women to dress as they want, and NOT be hidden in layers of clothing, only to be replaced with "anything that doesn't hide everything, look frumpy or show the minimum amount of cleavage is oversexualized.

When the outfits are designed to appeal to the male gaze, then yes, it is very much objectification. It's not ironic at all. Women are still be viewed as objects by the vast majority of gamers and game developers. I don't buy for a second that the vast majority of revealing female outfits in video games are designed with the idea of "Hey, what would a badass woman want to wear in this situation?", more likely "so the girl needs to look sexy, how do we do that?"

take a look at some "empowering" clothing mods for women

(nsfw) https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/categories/60/?BH=2

There's nothing wrong with form fitting and showing curves.

However when it comes to armour, I prefer it practical and realistic, over the concept of "I'm a feminist, let me wear whatever I want". Open revealing cleavage = a clear path for a sword, dagger or arrow straight through the chest. That's just silly on the battlefield. There are vital body areas that should be protected. (I'm also speaking as an SCA combat archer...)
Lae'zel's armour covers her chest and torso, but reveals her legs for freedom of movement. That's fine too - and is similar to how ancient Greek/Roman warriors might have been armoured.

Now if we had "casual" clothes to wear at camp (similar to DA:I - casual clothing when at Skyhold, armour when out adventuring), then people should be able to dress their characters however they want.

All the while, lusting over shirtless men like Henry Cavil and Jason Mamoa. But I guess that is ok, isn't it? I am sorry, but that is just hypocritical. Also, political catchphrases belong on twitter and 1st year college sociology classes. No where did the OP say anything about oversexualized armor. Classically, Drow armor is pretty much portrayed as he stated except for images from the maybe past 5 years. You might also want to keep in mind, if it wasn't for talented artists like Boris Vallejo, Frank Frazetta, oh yeah you might also want to associate yourself with Julie Bell's work as well, there would be no D&D games, or a Baldurs Gate to play.

Oh yeah, and also, the majority of those "sexy" driven armor mods, made for the "male gaze" in your words, are made by women. Food for thought

I mean that sounds like the whole formed breast plate for women argument not being practical, when actually they were very practical, and deflected sword strikes better than a flat chested male chest piece. Yeah Vallejo, Frazetta might be a touch much for a RPG game, because they want to appeal to the widest audience. But the whole "male gaze" argument that I see pop up here and there from people, is about as accurate as gamergate.

Not to mention, if any battle hardened warrior fought Lae'zel they would slit her femoral artery on those bare legs, and she would be dead a lot quicker than an arrow to the upper chest if you really want to be realistic. Also, Greek/Romans utilized defensive strategies, with better equipment, you are talking iron vs bronze. They also used phalanx formations like the Testudo formation, as well as the Spartans. How do you think the Spartans held off the Persians for so long at Thermopylae? That is why they won battles (well except for Thermopylae, but that was still a victory if you think about it). Better equipment, better strategy, which included iron shields, formations and a lifetime of training in military tactics. Where most others never had that.

I didn't say anything about formed breast plates for women. I just said women fighters (and men!) SHOULD have a breast plate covering the chest/torso as it is where all your vital organs are. I've heard both sides of the form-fitting breastplate armour argument both in games and SCA, and have met people who use both types of armour on the field.
(Personally speaking, my breastplate for SCA fighting is flat, it was simpler to make that way, and when arrows hit they thud and bounce off. Then again I am an archer and the swordsmen aren't allowed to hit archers with their swords, so I just have to worry about arrows.)

Generally speaking, if my fantasy game character's armour is so skimpy it wouldn't pass a basic SCA armour inspection by looking at it, I pick something that would...


I love Vallejo and Frazetta's art from an art perspective



That's very true.

Drow armor and weapons decay in the sunlight.

Classically, Drow were a race of highly fetishised dominatrix stereotypes who wore literal bondage gear as their 'religious' garb, and were dreamed up by horny male nerds (I don't mean to belittle horniness, malness or nerdiness at all; I'm two of those things... but it is what it is).

Folks can say whatever else they like - that's their very much ignoble root, and moving away from that is only a good thing.

There is definitely such a thing as taking it too far the other way, and Wizards may very well be treading dangerously on what amounts to cultural erasure in their efforts to sanitise their material... and that's not good... but defending the earliest depictions of Drow 'fashion' as some sort of ideal original vision to be recaptured is deeply misguided.

Damn I totally forgot about that, good point!

Woah Woah Woah! I never said skimpy armor when i said revealing. Im not a fan of bikini armors too. Seriously how can i upload an image here? The revealing armors i am am asking for are the ones you seein the Drizzt trailer. its like alight black cuirass with exposed skin in the arms and legs. Also the Matriarch robes look amazing.

PS im not asking for skimpy armor, i just wanted to see some of those cool alien like black leathers/metals tight armor/clothing we see in the comics. :D

Also some drow weapons would be nice!

I know drow weapons are affected by sunlight but doesn't the game take you down to the underdark for awhile? Down there those items would be greatly efficient and it would be immersive to see drow use these items instead of surface ones! Maybe Drow gear gets a buff down in the Underdark and if in the surface , they get a penalty or we get a notice saying they braked down.

The great thing about the original Drow armor, is it varied. You could have more "revealing" armor on Priestesses, to more extensive armor for melee.

Hey! How did you put the images here?

Also the pic of the bottom is what im referring too, its what i usually see in Drows in the comics and games i have played like SCL. Its not skimpy like the 3rd image you showed. It also looks completely alien to the surface armors and clothing's which is what i think should have been , drow are alien to the surface and superior :D.

The first two look like surface clothing's so i find it a bit non drow.

You have to have them uploaded somewhere first, like your own website if you have one, or an image storage website that allows offsite linking. Copy the link to the image.
Then when wanting to put images in a comment, click on "Use Full Editor" at the bottom of the comment window, there is an "insert image link" button that looks like a picture of a mountain - that will let you paste the link in using the img tags and it will show up.


Yeah that is a pretty cool looking outfit!

On one side I like current drow armor design, on the other I don't recognise in its ornaments those webs mentioned in the description. They look more like leaf streaks for me.
The Drow of the Underdark cover above looks as something that should be taken as reference for new ornaments at least.

That top image is not a Drow. In fact it's not even associated with the forgotten realms in any way, because it's a photoshop of the cover art of a book, specifically Queen of Shadows, by Sarah J Maas, and the main character is mostly human and part fey.

Please don't trust the tags on pinterest, i have found they can be wildly misleading at times. Look at actual sourcebooks, or even the forgotten realms novels, they have good examples of drow armours from over the years.

You can see a much bigger version of the art here

I figured as much. It didn't look like what you can normally see in DnD comics with drows. Even if the artists created different aesthetics for drows trough out the years , they all share that spider ornate, black/purple color and tight armor and it really bugs me that a game such as BG3 that features the Underdark and drows and we don't see a single item that fits that lore description. Larian should use the armor designs we see in the new Drizzt trailer at the DND website. Those look so good. Deadly & seductive!!. Just like the Drows. Modders might help in this regard but

If you're afraid of a little skin, then you should know most of the clothing you see with the mods currently, are taken from the games files, and just made accessible.

It's more like saying that if you feel uncomfortable with the clothing mods that are currently available in Early access, you'll have a problem with the clothing that they have planned to place in the game. Because the clothing and armor you see on mods sites like Nexus currently, are essentially outfits and armors that Larian has designed and placed in the game files; with some mildly being edited. Plus, the mods on the Nexus aren't even that revealing, so yeah, in my opinion, if you are sensitive to whats on the Nexus right now, you probably should steer away from this game, since the game is going to have SOME revealing clothing, and it's going to have nudity and sex. because, if you're sensitive to revealing clothing, you're probably sensitive to that as well.

And then If you' actually read the thread, you would find out that OP doesn't want a thing like that.

Ok. But the Op wasn't asking for everyone to be dressed in skimpy clothes, so you're lingerie comment was stupid. And where do you get " some" out of "Agree, don't need that in the official game." That persons comment was towards someone telling the Op to use the Nexus, which only have outfits contained in the game files.

What OP asked for was more Drow armors matching the Drow aesthetic. He even clarified saying he wasn't asking for Skimpy armor.
For me, honestly, variety would be great. If there was a variety of Drow armors it could be cool to see. Basic fighters having darker leathery with spider etchings. Maybe the matriarchs going to the more skimpy end of things cause their armor would be more for optics instead of practicality unless they were prepared to fight or prepared to commit a non crime by leaving no witnesses. Drow have a unique culture and envirornment that would produce outfits unique to them but with the practicality they need. Body revealing parts and skintight don't necessarily mean skimpy, and in fact makes sense for stealthy based fighters who work in the darkness, as they want their movement to not be restricted. But also I would like to see more armored Drow and such, essentially I want variety and to me OPs request matches that want.

The Op asked if they were going to add any of the Drow armors we see in comic books or lore art. Then they describes what they are talking about. Then they mention, what I assume is the legend of Drizzt video, and says that has some of the armors they referring to. You are so hot and bothered by the word "revealing", you don't even read anything else that was said.

He clarified by saying parts like arms and legs being exposed, which actually matches the drow cause their combat style is more dex based and is about unrestricted smooth movements (or in the case of some, uncompared brutality). He even responded to an above image saying the fourth Pandemonica posted is the type of thing he is looking for instead of the third, Chest is armored with unique style and arms and legs only have cloth.
Sometimes it is good to read through replies cause English isn't always the greatest medium to convey a thought the first time and clarification can sometimes be given, I have made the mistake of missing a core reply multiple times so I try to read through everything.
Also even if he was asking for Skimpy armor, there would be some merit to it cause culturally and historically some fighters have had to fight in more showy or skimpy outfits instead of practical ones. This is typically either cause the fighting was for show like in Roman Coliseums, or it was a cultural or tribal thing. And either would match the Drow since they have kidnapped people and forced them to fight in arena's for entertainment and they put a lot of cultural significance on Lolth and her ideals, like how a crime hasn't been committed if there is no witnesses (if I remember correctly), a matriarchal society, and considering the drow to be superior and more beautiful than other races. In lore Drow priestesses would wear more skimpy armor which is more ceremonial and symbolic than anything practical beyond perhaps enchantments on it, while the warriors wore more tight leathers and spidery plates, and their colors with said armor is typically black. So honestly, even if he wanted Bikini Armor in the game, there genuinely would be a place for it because of the variety of cultures and styles in Faerun, in the same vein I'd want to see other armor styles of different places like BG Guard armor being different from Waterdevian Guard Armor, and even Gobbos having different styles based on what they have scraped together and where they are in the Gobbo society.

Edit: Also to be that weird guy, if Women get skimpy armor I also think Men should too in some capacity, equality and again gives a good variety that fleshes out the world and makes each culture more distinct. Like, if each "group" has their own style it'll make the game much more distinctive and reflective of DND. I'd love to, if we ever encounter beings like them, to see Efreeti Armor or even find different armors for devils and such in the higher levels.

This is a Lineage II game Dark ELF FYI... I played that game for over 6 years so very familiar with that image/race/pose. And scantily clad was the theme for Dark elves in that game (both male and female).

You guys struggle to find a pic of drow armor so here you go :
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zhAWsKtUBPs/YKYXqT3Z0vI/AAAAAAAAeLU/ZUnN9O-7lYIHKkHxlQfht3OweYlka6urQCNcBGAsYHQ/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/drow%2Bfull%2Bplate.jpg

I really love Lineage 2 armor... The design of the dark elves in this game rly awesome, even if it is frank. And, indeed, even the men had quite frank and dark armor. I would like that in the game we had at least one armor similar type. At least for mage... But if no, then we have mods