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Originally Posted by BuckettMonkey
Well, Lathander was one of the three deities available to the cleric in the original series. And he also returned after the fourth edition retcons. If Larian had not included him in the list of deities, I would have been surprised.

Lathander is alrdy added, forget about him and give me pls

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Waukeen for Clerics and Raven Queen as Patron for Warlocks.

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Originally Posted by BuckettMonkey
Well, Lathander was one of the three deities available to the cleric in the original series. And he also returned after the fourth edition retcons. If Larian had not included him in the list of deities, I would have been surprised.

Lathander is alrdy added
Yes, I know.
Originally Posted by Lotus Noctus
Raven Queen as Patron for Warlocks.
Hexblade is unlikely to be added to the game. Also, Larian should have added a Archfey warlock first.

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Too bad Forge Domain won't get added id like a Cleric of Gond

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Originally Posted by BuckettMonkey
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Originally Posted by BuckettMonkey
Well, Lathander was one of the three deities available to the cleric in the original series. And he also returned after the fourth edition retcons. If Larian had not included him in the list of deities, I would have been surprised.

Lathander is alrdy added
Yes, I know.
My understanding until now was that Lathander was not included, as reported by others in this forum in the past. I am not one of those playing the EA game so I don't know these things first-hand. So if Lathander truly is available as a player-choosable deity, then I'm good. But I still stand with wanting to see all the major deities in the game. What those might be I don't know, as I'm not up to speed on which deities retain major deity status in 5e.

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Originally Posted by BuckettMonkey
Well, Lathander was one of the three deities available to the cleric in the original series. And he also returned after the fourth edition retcons. If Larian had not included him in the list of deities, I would have been surprised.

Lathander is alrdy added
Yes, I know.
My understanding until now was that Lathander was not included, as reported by others in this forum in the past. I am not one of those playing the EA game so I don't know these things first-hand. So if Lathander truly is available as a player-choosable deity, then I'm good. But I still stand with wanting to see all the major deities in the game. What those might be I don't know, as I'm not up to speed on which deities retain major deity status in 5e.

I made the post originally because I couldn't find Lathander and then after patch 8 Lathander was there! Maybe I was just blind if he was already there, but my Lathander BG trilogy playthrough felt so much joy.

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Originally Posted by BuckettMonkey
In my opinion, the existing list of deities is already quite complete and does not need to be changed.
After all, it's better to have a small list of gods whose choices really affect the game than a huge list with no distinction.
However, I wouldn't mind playing as a cleric of Cyric or Eldath.
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It would be cool though if there were enough domains so all deities would have at least two to choose from.
Unfortunately, this is unlikely to happen.
Even after so many rulebooks, many deities (like Talos and Tempus) only received one domain, and this is unlikely to change.
In general, speaking about deities and domains, we can refer to the first edition of the Pathfinder.
The first edition gave a lot of archetypes, one of which was the separatist. "A radical cleric, unsatisfied with the orthodoxy of her deity’s teachings, forges her own path of defiant divine expression". This archetype allowed the cleric to choose a second domain not from the deity's domain list. By the way, this second domain cannot be an alignment domain that doesn’t match the cleric’s of they deity’s alignment.
Probably something like this can be implemented in the game. Like, cleric of Bane/Bhaal with a trickery domain, cleric of Tempus with a tempest domain, etc.
Well it's ok Clerics don't get a lot of flexibility. I think it fits the class since their powers come directly from a god that represents something very specific.

One could argue that all Clerics getting Guiding Bolt (a radiance spell) is already stretching it too far. Clerics of Shar or other dark gods should get a similar attack dealing Necrotic damage.

I think Clerics would be cooler if their universal spell list would be much more narrow and only comprise of very generic stuff like Bless or Cure Wounds. And then the Domains could be expanded to play a bigger part of their power repertoire. So Clerics would reflect their faith more accurately and have powerful theme-appropriate spells other Clerics don't get.

In BG3 it's odd any Cleric of any faith can use Create Water to call down rain, but Wizards can't. It's an elemental spell which seems much more of a Wizard thing to do. So it should be reversed, really.

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Originally Posted by 1varangian
I think Clerics would be cooler if their universal spell list would be much more narrow and only comprise of very generic stuff like Bless or Cure Wounds. And then the Domains could be expanded to play a bigger part of their power repertoire. So Clerics would reflect their faith more accurately and have powerful theme-appropriate spells other Clerics don't get.
Perhaps. I didn't think too much about these changes.
Originally Posted by 1varangian
In BG3 it's odd any Cleric of any faith can use Create Water to call down rain, but Wizards can't. It's an elemental spell which seems much more of a Wizard thing to do. So it should be reversed, really.
Well, in the 5e, this spell was only available to clerics, druids, and fathomless warlocks. Probably Larian did not want to deviate from the original.


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