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What's the point in me being a Rogue with Deceive and Sleight Of Hand if I can't use them when my friend, a Wizard, gets the Sleight of Hand prompt?
When will you let us sue whatever the best skill is between the party, instead of just what the speaker has?

At this point, it's completely random who gets what skillcheck, thus rendering character builds literally useless, unless we read a walkthrough and spoil everything ahead of time. mad

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Obsidian got this right for skill checks. Uses the party's member highest value.

In fact I love Deadfire's leveling, multi classes, magic, skill and general gameplay system. It feels so much better constructed and thought out than BG3.
Its like every issue BG3 has, Obsidian already solved it a decade ago lol.
Mouse control, party UI, party AI, Inventory, Rest/Camping, Skill selections and usage, Day/Night, dialogues...
People love to hate Deadfire for its story and characters... For me its such a great RPG game to just get lost into...ignoring the main story.

Sorry had to mention Deadfire, starting playing and really loving it. Its the closest thing in atmosphere to BG2 I have ever been since, well , a Black Isle game.
Playing a multi class Chanter(skald kit)/Barbarian(Furishaper) = Howler. I really FEEL for my character in this POe world, like hes there and important part of the story. I feel NOTHING for my character in BG3. Its all about the companions. I guess like in DOS2? The worst part is...I don't even like these very few companions selection we have.

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It just reminded me of the bowl of goat's milk that old Winthrop used to put outside his door every evening for the dust demons. He said the dust demons could never resist goat's milk, and that they would always drink themselves into a stupor and then be too tired to enter his room..
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Originally Posted by Count Turnipsome
Obsidian got this right for skill checks. Uses the party's member highest value.

In fact I love Deadfire's leveling, multi classes, magic, skill and general gameplay system. It feels so much better constructed and thought out than BG3.
Its like every issue BG3 has, Obsidian already solved it a decade ago lol.
Mouse control, party UI, party AI, Inventory, Rest/Camping, Skill selections and usage, Day/Night, dialogues...
People love to hate Deadfire for its story and characters... For me its such a great RPG game to just get lost into...ignoring the main story.

Sorry had to mention Deadfire, starting playing and really loving it. Its the closest thing in atmosphere to BG2 I have ever been since, well , a Black Isle game.
Playing a multi class Chanter(skald kit)/Barbarian(Furishaper) = Howler. I really FEEL for my character in this POe world, like hes there and important part of the story. I feel NOTHING for my character in BG3. Its all about the companions. I guess like in DOS2? The worst part is...I don't even like these very few companions selection we have.
Totally agree
Bg1 and 2 made me care about the character's i played threw 2 100s of times to see all the interactions

Played each class to do the class based quests like the paladin one warrior one druid one

Played a theif to see how the theif guild treated me, was suprised to find the vampires then didnt want me, and i could get my own thief hideout

Bg3 character's dont give me the same feelings of discovery, im hopeing out of early access this will change

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Originally Posted by Count Turnipsome
Obsidian got this right for skill checks. Uses the party's member highest value.
Except those times when you want to fail ... :-/


I still dont understand why cant we change Race for our hirelings. frown
Lets us play Githyanki as racist as they trully are! frown
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Originally Posted by Count Turnipsome
Obsidian got this right for skill checks. Uses the party's member highest value.
That’s not true. pathfinder games work like that. Deadfire does not. In Deadfire it is still yours PC stats that get checked, however a small portion of your companions stats get added to your check - so if you have companions with high arcana, they will boost your check so you might pass it, even if you are couple points short.

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The devs really need to just make an option:

Use Talker's:
This setting uses whoever started the conversation.

Use Highest:
This setting always uses the highest Skill/Save in the party.

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Still not exactly sufficient, as long as game will pick speaker for us ... :-/
Dunno ... cant shake the feeling that once again, the only way to make this properly is to allow us to switch speakers during conversations.


I still dont understand why cant we change Race for our hirelings. frown
Lets us play Githyanki as racist as they trully are! frown

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