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#239408 29/05/04 10:08 AM
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I stripped Damien of all his weapons except for a "low-impact" club. I took all his armour and health potions. We took a short excursion to the Battlefields where he got beaten to within an inch of his life. Then, we took the rift to Rivellon . . . and when we arrived, Damien had mysteriously recharged all his health points and had found a brand new Death Knight hammer or something with which he beats the crap out of me. (Repeat the entire process numerous times with minor variations but the same outcome until frustration sets in).

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Stun him with Shaman hammer spell. This Damian has fix stats - so you can't weaken him before.
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Unfortunately, I have been putting all my skill emphasis on thieving and archery. So, what you're telling me is that not only are my lockpicking and trap detection skills worthless, my 80% archery accuracy skill (which has thus far resulted in nothing but misses) worthless, but my lack of magic skills have made the battle impossible to win. AAAAAAAEEEEE!

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have you got enough gold? then unlearn all skills you don't need and put them into Hammer. Lvl 5 is sufficient.
OR: Unlearn all skills you don't need now and train sneak up to lvl 11. Then use the hit%run method with him.
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2. Suche dir ausreichend Normale und aufspaltende Pfeile
3. Lerne die F�higkeit "schleichen" so hoch wie m�glich.
4. Wenn der Dialog mit ... beendet ist, verpisst du dich erstmal in gehst in den Schleichmodus.
5. Nun suchst du dir eine Position die recht weit weg von ... ist.
6. Schie�e auf ihn. Bedenke aber das du damit deine Position verr�tst und er auf dich zukommt.
7. Kurz bevor er an dir drann ist, brichst du deinen Angriff ab und gehst woanders hin. Damit wirst du, da du ihn nichtmehr angreifst, f�r ihn wieder unsichtbar.
8. Diese Hit&Run taktik machst ne weile und schwups ist er hin�ber.


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Look for a sufficient amount of normal and splitting arrows
Learn sneak up to max (11)
as soon as the dialogue ends - go into sneak mode and walk away as far as you can - keep in sneak mode.
Shoot - keep in mind, he knows your position now and will come.
When he has nearly reached you - stop your attack and go a few steps somewhere else. As you don't attack him, you will be invisible again
Continue this hit&run tactic and - hey presto: he's dead.

This was made by several [color:"yellow"]patient[/color] German gamers, verified and approved of. Advantage of spells or ranged weapons => NO summoned enemies.

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I've already got every bloody bit of stamina boosting equipment on that I can manage. Tried to run circles around him to wear him down - no apparent effect and my speed is supposed to be twice his. Tried to summon enough blocking creatures so I could stand off and fire at him - the blocking worked but I got only a single arrow hit out of 25 fired. Tried switching to melee weapon - he immediately started summoning creatures and soon I was dead without even getting in a single hit. I'm thinking that sneaking and sniping aren't going to work when my hard-earned archery skills suddenly seem to be useless. Maybe it's time to go back to being frustrated by Sacred.

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Please, read my modified post - I can't give you a patience potion though - but German gamers managed it this way, without magic.
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habe Schleichen tats�chlich bei Keith bekommen (lvl 11 auch in version 1.3).
Hatte ein kleines Problem, da ich Krieger mit 2H-Schwert gespielt habe und die meisten Punkte in St�rke und Konstitution investiert habe. So haben mit 10 Gewandheitspunkte gefehlt um den Bogen benutzen zu k�nnen. Konnte aber gen�gend Gegenst�nde, wie Sch�rpe, Amulett, Ringe etc. kaufen die meine Gewandheit gesteigert haben. Tja, und dann habe ich mich genau an deine Anweisungen gehalten. Was soll ich sagen. Dein Tip ist genial. Total easy, im ersten Versuch geschafft. Man braucht nur ein wenig Geduld und das Gef�hl f�r die Entfernung zu ihm. Jetzt kann ich das Spiel wirklich als durch bezeichnen und habe gleich gestern Abend nochmal angefangen. Hab Dank

I got sneak from Keith in version 1.3 up to lvl 11.
I had a small problem, as I played a warrior with a 2-hander, so my points went into strength and con. I missed 10 agility pts to use a bow. But I could find enough items to increase this. Well, and then I kept EXACTLY to your instructions. What shall I say? Your tip is ingenious. Totally easy, I made it at my first try. One only needs a bit of patience and a feeling for the distance to him. Now I can say, I finished the game and started yesterday again. Thank you.

Kiya => I tried it like this right now => sneak and archer for a while. Then I lost patience and took the Demon Cutter Axe (without any skill in it) - but I had my hammer spell on 4. I kept peltering him with hammer+melee => no enemies were summoned (maybe due to the time I had used ranged weapons before).



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I faced him the first time with a pure melee hero and couldn't do much damage at all - sooner or later I was going to run out of potions and die.

While fighting I paused and I unlearned one skill so I could learn hammer. My intelligence was awful but I was able to cast it once with my mana pool (note that if you can't potions of intelligence or charms/items of mana/intelligence will allow you to). Fortunately I am a pack rat - had over 80 mana potions.

So I cast hammer, took mana potion - swung twice; cast hammer, took mana potion - swung twice; repeat as needed. Note that the hammer paralysis gives you time to get behind him to benefit from backstab if you have that skill. I didn't.

Took some time but after learning hammer even at level 1 I was never at risk.


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Ok, Ok, you've convinced me not to give up just yet. I'll try a bit more learning to see if I can improve my chances. Sure would like to see Damien's health status decrease a little after all my efforts. Thanks.

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http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/act4screens/Finalarrow2.jpg
http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/act4screens/Finalarrow4.jpg

Ok, I did it with sneak on 8, disease on 5 and poison arrows. never used Hammer once (I have my pride). Played on tactical as a puny lvl 29.

http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/act4screens/Finalarrow8.jpg

Killing with poison arrow prof. on 5, sneak on 8 - nothing else.

http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/act4screens/Finalarrowdis.jpg
a good distance at sneak on 8 to fire.


http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/act4screens/finalfireball.jpg
Sneak on 8 for a mage is good also => I used fireball at lvl 5. Could fire 2x until I needed new mana.

Mind you all => I'm NOT good at combat - but it is possible to kill him without magic as my proficiency screenies show. It needs patience and a feeling for the correct distance => not too far and not too near.

I'm getting better => sneak on 5, correct distance timing and no weapon profidiency => just increased my meagre 2 pts reload time up to 6 => exitus.

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Using a shield (with a few points into the proper skill, block I think it was called) makes the fight very easy, I don�t think I was hit once by Damien, his necromancer was a different story though... -_-;


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Took a strong drink of Kiya's patience potion, learned Shaman's Hammer, and finally beat Damien. BUT, at that point BD signaled a change in screen resolution and my game crashed to desktop 'cause I didn't have a chance to save, quit, and restart a lower resolution. Guess I should have spent the last two hours downloading patch 1.45 instead of playing.

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Heh, I've done this as a level 29 2-handed melee user. It was pretty tough. I tried to get at least one hit in before him, then ran around, and hoped the summoned creature got to me first, then i killed it. It got interesting around the time he started summoning the Necromancer and the Black Bishop... But i survived. :P Too bad he can't survive the battlefields though.

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I did it with level 30 1H warrior, no shield, no magic, no running, just a lot of whacking. All the creatures he summoned were attacking and it was quite a show, hehehe. Of course I had 93 full health potions which helped....a little

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Took a strong drink of Kiya's patience potion, learned Shaman's Hammer, and finally beat Damien. BUT, at that point BD signaled a change in screen resolution and my game crashed to desktop 'cause I didn't have a chance to save, quit, and restart a lower resolution. Guess I should have spent the last two hours downloading patch 1.45 instead of playing

Aw, this crash is a shame - feeling very sorry for you <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" /> - but did you get a knack how to defeat this guy?
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I must have some problem: almost all my potions have disappeared!
I had a "permanent" restoration potion, but it also disappeared.

Hammer stuns him for a while, but not much damage, really.
Soon, I am out of potion, and he kills me in 2 strokes with his super death knight sharpened weapon.

How unfair! I should have stripped him out of everything before doing the rift!

BAck to the older savegame, I guess. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" />

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Who had your potions, Philippe? As soon as your DK and you part - his inventory is no longer available for you - so, take from him, what you need before going through the rift.

In my XP => there's no use in stripping him, his stats are fix - striptease or not.

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Managed to repeat successfully whacking Damien, saving the game, and changing screen resolution. Then I find that this was the end-of-game. What an anticlimax. So long and thanks for all the fish.

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Managed to repeat successfully whacking Damien, saving the game, and changing screen resolution. Then I find that this was the end-of-game. What an anticlimax. So long and thanks for all the fish.


i kill damien melee two hands wapon en potion that was all en de monsters the doe the rest greetings corrie <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />


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Exactly what happened, Kiya!

I took my previous saved game, stripped the DK of nearly all his possessions before riftrunning back to Rivellon.
Then, it was just a booooring matter of casting HAMMER times and times again, while drinkink mana potions.

A bit disappointing ending.

I would have liked some nifty 3D cutscene, rather than those ugly 2D screens slowly zooming.

Story was good, however.

Let's see what DD2 will be. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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The first time I faced Damien I had a pure melee character... couldn't get through to him... untill I tried out Berserk (lvl8).
He was died in 30 secs... along with the creatures he summoned. (killing the creature he summoned in 1 blow, then went on to attack Damien again).

The second time I transferred all mana plus items (DK was mage) to my hero, giving him around 900 mana and learned Hammer (lvl11). With the help of tons of mana potions (had found and bought over 1000 during the game, hardly used one up to this point) I got him... no summoned monsters, but it took forever to get him down... It looked like he had way more vitality points then the first time... both on hardcore. (first finish on patch 1.32, second on patch 1.44).

Question: I started on hardcore because I thought the options where easy to hard... is tactical easier like I think, or a different way?


What's that? This is NOT real life? a game? Help, I wanna get out...
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