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#849337 23/04/23 03:14 PM
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I have known my first character since early access began. It is what I rolled for the first play-through day one of early access. I liked it that much I stopped and save him for full release and have since come up with a full backstory. I've since become indecisive on the class as originally it was ranger since it was the only class at the time not represented buy a companion.

So he is a half Elf Drow. My backstory is he was born in a Lolth worshipping and controlled Underdark city (I don't know much about D&D lore so Mayby Menzobarranzen or somewhere else applicable closer to Bauldurs Gate). He was bore to a human female slave captured from the surface world and a male Drow (maybe not a slave but deffinatly still at the bottom of society). I have not thought much about his parents and their actual relationship together if there was one (and it defiantly wasn't an approved thing to happen), since he doesn't spend much time there.

As a child of a human slave and male Drow at the bottom of society he was shunned by all as a male and half breed, at a very young age he escaped the city. While wondering lost in the Underdark he was found by a Dwarven Patrol and adopted into a dwarvan family with children of their own. I was good at first and they all got along. But being half Drow, while his adoptive family was nice the rest wasn't so kind. Eventually there was some type of commotion involving some local children and when confronted by his adoptive parents he tried to say it wasn't his fault and he had done nothing wrong (the truth) but when His adoptive siblings lied and blamed him saying everything was him, he decided it was time to leave as the Dwarves wasn't much better than the Drow in the end. He could deal with the persecution from everyone except the family he had been living with.

He made his way to the surface world (I don't know exactly how or if he was helped) and made his way to Baldurs Gate and lived on the streets in the slums (where the Urchin background comes from), it was a hard life. The local population never trusted him because of his Drow heritage. Most of his food at first probably came from trash and scavenging what he could (he never stole though). He'd do whatever menial jobs he could but often wouldn't be paid a full amount or at all.

He spent several years on the streets this way before a low rank adventuring party found him and noticing his talents recruited him one of there number taught him the ways of being a city ranger (a Mephistopheles Tiefling, also a ranger, he also fell in love with her and she will be the one he dreams of, ). They taught him how to be an urban tracker and hunt people as a bounty hunter (for the explorer and favoured enemy choices). He also became very proficient with the bow (will be primary weapon and fighting style for the game. Passively from race and class choices he is proficient in stealth, slight of hand and investigation with the other two I will be taking being Insight and perception (can't fully decide on the third). He will have equal intelligence and wisdom and his proficiency's' are there to assess people and find traps and ambushes as he has had to deal with it all his life so he is good at spotting this. the stealth and slight of hand help him track and follow his targets and are not used for thievery.

Eventually even this party turned on him and betrayed him so he went on his own again as a bounty hunter. His experiences with people formed his moral code, alignment and outlook on life. He is lawful evil (as in the D&D selfish definition of evil, not what we consider evil), everything he does he does for himself. he has no regards or love for anyone else because he has never met anyone who hasn't lied to or betrayed him at some point. So he will take any job and kill anyone if there is money in it. He has no regards for the laws an societies that have oppressed him all his life. He views himself as superior to everyone else on account f his honesty, his word is his bond and he will never tell a lie, ever, and will complete any job and do exactly what he agrees to regardless of what new information comes (unless he is betrayed before he can do what he says). This is where the lawful part comes from, not so much the laws of the city and more an unwillingness to lie or break his word. He will do whatever it takes to get the job done no matter how bad or heinous it is without problem.

Despite all that has happened the biggest lie he tells (really only lie) is to himself which is that he really does want friends that he can rely on and form relationships with, people who can help mend him emotionally, this he denies even to himself.

His backstory, personality and outlook is set in stone, but I am considering now making him and the Tiefling into a monk, I don't think it would change that much about him really, just he would use martial arts instead of a bow, something to think about for release.

If I can ever find a group for a real D&D table top campaign this is the character I want to play and I feel he would fit into any party alignment you can think of. There would be frictions at first until he began to learn he can trust them and he can make friends to mend his heart. He'd even fit into good aligned parties despite being more than willing to use murder and torture as a first resort since he is actually quite easy to control, all the party would need to learn is they can control him by getting him to give his word. The biggest problem I would foresee is if new information comes along and the party wants to break their word or abandon a quest this isn't something he would do. He would see the quest/job through no matter what (again if the people who give the quests and jobs betray him he is no longer obligated to see it through), but even this can be solved by not letting him agree to anything and having the party agree and him agree to do as the party wishes.

I know this is a lot but basically TL:DR Lawful Evil Half-Drow Ranger or Monk.

I'm open to any insights or suggestions and would love to hear about any interesting characters you want to create.

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Very flavorful character, cruel and despicable even.

But Lawful does not seem to fit... Selfish character that has no care for laws and ready to kill whoever (children?) for money and also feels superior to everyone else is a classic Assassin type of character - Chaotic Evil. Being true to your word will not override "killer for hire". Plus - chaos is connected to freedom in DnD and I assume he would be very averse to slavery and value his freedom above all - so if forced with a decision "finish the job" or "avoid capture", he would break his word and bail.

Ranger fits very well. Maybe altho he hates intelligent races but discovers that animals never lie, never betray, never kill unnecessarily. He strives to lead a lonely life with his animal companion, away from civilized races and filth of cities, without fear of getting stabbed in the back. Love for animals and nature will be at least something this kind of character may be "liked" for.


As for my own - I RP several different chars in all DnD games, starting with original BG, IWD and NWN. So for BG3, my char will be a child of Bhaalspawn Charname and Viconia, because that's the first romance I've had in a game lol.

So naturally, it will be a half-drow as well, most likely Thief. I'm still thinking about what kind of person would single mother Viconia raise in solitude on the outskirts of High Forest... All I know is that he will be a strong Shar believer and will definitely find a lot of common ground with Shadowheart.

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@ ladydub It woud be funny if you meet Vicci in BG 3 an she has indeed a child from Abdel Adrian. xD

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Originally Posted by Lotus Noctus
@ ladydub It woud be funny if you meet Vicci in BG 3 an she has indeed a child from Abdel Adrian. xD

Hmm do we meet her, actually?

If yes, I might need to review the origins of my char lol

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Originally Posted by ladydub
Very flavorful character, cruel and despicable even.
Thank you, I have put a fair amount of thought into him since my first character in early access, especially how I could make him fit in any tabletop D&D group and give them a way to control and reign him in, actually part of his inspiration later on cam from Lucifer from the TV series netflix eventually saved. I wouldn't necessarily say he is a cruel person by nature, more that if something cruel and despicable needs doing he will do what he must and not loose sleep over it, just if it is the best option he will.
Originally Posted by ladydub
But Lawful does not seem to fit... Selfish character that has no care for laws and ready to kill whoever (children?) for money and also feels superior to everyone else is a classic Assassin type of character - Chaotic Evil. Being true to your word will not override "killer for hire". Plus - chaos is connected to freedom in DnD
I don't think chaotic evil fits very well either, to me that has always been the Joker archetype, mayhem and chaos for the fun and sake of it, the classic crazy psychopath that just wants to watch the world burn, again that isn't my character. He values order and stability. he won't necessarily go out of his way to break any laws but he also won't let them hold him back. They aren't his laws, but he will avoid unnecessary trouble. And as for the children that was an extreme example, he wouldn't like or enjoy doing it, but everything has a proice and if someone is willing to pay he is willing to do anything for the right price. In a good party he can be the necessary evil who does what is needed to save the day no matter how dirty his hands get.
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I assume he would be very averse to slavery and value his freedom above all - so if forced with a decision "finish the job" or "avoid capture", he would break his word and bail.
Not so, when I say he would never break his word I mean it, when he agrees to a job he agrees to complete regardless of what unforeseen risks crop up, he would try to avoid being captured same as any situation but if it was the only way to complete the job he would do what was necessary then try to escape later. The only reason he would abandon the mission under those circumstances is if he learned he had been set up for capture by his employer, in which case he would abandon the mission and go looking for his employer again. Otherwise all risks are acceptable.
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Ranger fits very well. Maybe altho he hates intelligent races but discovers that animals never lie, never betray, never kill unnecessarily. He strives to lead a lonely life with his animal companion, away from civilized races and filth of cities, without fear of getting stabbed in the back. Love for animals and nature will be at least something this kind of character may be "liked" for.
He isn't that type of ranger, his sub class will be hunter as i feel it fits better with him being a bounty hunter. He isn't that fond of the outdoors, it is to big. He spent most of his early life living underground so a big open sky is a little unnerving. Then Living as an urchin in a big busy city he got used to crowds and even prefers the hustle and bustle of a city as he can melt into a crowd and hide that way assassins creed style. He also will not have an animal companion as he doesn't like relying on anyone or anything else as every time has just led to trouble and problems. Also he is kinda bad with animals haha, one of the reasons I'm considering mook because at the minute is is basically just an archer and the shadow monk sounds cool and I think could fit really well, also the Open Hand can be a really good fit as the exacting specialist. Thill thinking on the eventual class but I am leaning more towards monk.

I do thank you for your in depth reply, i did enjoy reading it, I just wanted to clarify a few of my points as I may not have explained them properly in the first post leading to some confusion.

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honestly i see him as more Paladin than Ranger


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Originally Posted by Ussnorway
honestly i see him as more Paladin than Ranger
I've always seen Paladin as a melee focused Cleric in service to a deity than what they are now in 5E, also in BG3 it is too easy to become an oath breaker which really doesn't fit him. You can loose your oath for freeing Lezel and then the tieflings attack you dispite you never giving your oath at all. Seems very arbitrary to me and also very likely to break your oath just for doing some thing the game considers evil despite you never lying or breaking your word. really wasn't impressed when I tied it.

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Originally Posted by Sir Sparhawk
but everything has a proice and if someone is willing to pay he is willing to do anything for the right price. In a good party he can be the necessary evil who does what is needed to save the day no matter how dirty his hands get.

Very interesting. I wonder what he would do if he was offered to betray his party/friends for a huge reward? I assume he would refuse?

It’s interesting for me because i usually RP “honourable” thieves and scoundrels, “ocean’s eleven” style. They’re not good men, but they have standards. They don’t give to the poor, but most definitely only steal from the rich 😂 so motivations are simple - apply and hone your skills to overcome harder and harder challenges. Because it’s risky, fun and rewarding.

But what drives your hero? Money? What’s he spending it on? If he’s so ruthless and reliable, his services must not be cheap. Between good and evil sides, will he choose the one that pays more, or the one that will do good? Does he want to become the best bounty hunter and start his own guild? Or maybe he wants to buy a house, get married and have kids?🤣 would be interesting to see what are the aspirations of such a character.


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