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A politician raised by a devil. What could go wrong?
After the recent disappearance of Duke Ravengard, the city of Baldur’s Gate has turned to Lord Enver Gortash, the up-and-coming designer of the Steel Watchers – magical clockwork warriors created to defend the city. As the newly-minted protector of Baldur’s Gate, Gortash stands as one of the most powerful figures within its walls.

Please welcome Jason Isaacs to the cast of Baldur's Gate 3 as Lord Enver Gortash!

Catch more Baldur's Gate 3 news at this weekend's PC Gaming Show. wyllcool

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Raised by a devil, that's interesting, I guess that explains the robes.

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IMO the golems are kinda silly ... Star Wars at its worst ...
While I find the unshaved Authority Figure offputting.
I loved the ship repurposed as tavern, though!

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I have to admit, I'm actually rather intriguied by Gortash. I'd still rather learn more about more companions, but this villain is actually more interesting to me than the other one we've seen. A political mover and shaker orchestrating chaos to take advantage of it? Creating danger and then selling the city the solution? I'm not sure how I feel about the Steel Watchers' aesthetic but he actually feels like he could be a fun, engaging villain. Honestly I'd kind of enjoy having him just being the only secondary antagonist, his thing feels like something that could stay interesting for the duration of the game.

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Sadly the villain screams villain at you, like e.g. Wormtounge in the LotR movie.
Palpatine being the kindly statesman (until he wasn't) was one of the highlights of Star Wars.

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Thank you, Larian!!! Time is passing way too slowly for us gamers. I wanna play this yesterday!!

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Question:
Am i the only one who somehow cant shake the feeling that Larian decided to keep their word, in revealing other (probably lesser?) antagonists ... while trying to please people who dont wish to read spoilers (but somehow refuses to just "dont" read articles that seems clearly spoilery) ...

So in the end we have almost nothing to chew? :-/


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If you mean the article thwy posted here with the trailer then no, not really. They actually posted more details about Gortash than they did about Ketheric.

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One aspect does make me curious, though. Ketheric a Necromancer with an army of Undead immune to Mind Flayers. Gortash an Artficier? with an army of Steel Watchers immune to Mind Flayers. I'm curious to see what the third lieutenant's army might be.

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Is it confirmed Gortash is one of the lieutenants?

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Originally Posted by Sozz
Is it confirmed Gortash is one of the lieutenants?

The end of the trailer makes it seem that way. I can only guess. On the other hand, if he was raised by a Devil, then maybe he has some connection to Thalamra Vanthampur, who already wants to rule Baldur's Gate, and/or Raphael?

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I thought he even looked a bit like Raphael but that’s probably just me

Of the three lieutenants, we know two are men and one is a woman. One is a pale elf , I don’t remember which. We’re pretty sure Thorm is one and Z’rell is another, I don’t recall if anyone refers to Z’rell’s gender.

Based on that snippet between Thorm and Gortash I can say if Gortash is a Absolutnik

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Originally Posted by Sozz
I thought he even looked a bit like Raphael but that’s probably just me

Of the three lieutenants, we know two are men and one is a woman. One is a pale elf , I don’t remember which. We’re pretty sure Thorm is one and Z’rell is another, I don’t recall if anyone refers to Z’rell’s gender.

Based on that snippet between Thorm and Gortash I can say if Gortash is a Absolutnik

Tracker Klagga's love letters / diary excerpts are addressed to Z'rell and describe her as a female.

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Interesting. That makes Gortash the handsome younger man with a quick and easy smile. Reviewing the bridge scene, Z'rell isn't called a pale elf (that's Astarion I guess I'm confusing it with) just a pale woman. Though I also remember this scene changing once or twice.

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Originally Posted by Gray Ghost
They actually posted more details about Gortash than they did about Ketheric.
Bcs we know most things about Ketheric from EA ...
This is completely new character.

I dunno how to describe it, it just feels ... dunno, lesser ... video feels shorter (maybe its just my imagination tho, i didnt bother to compare them) ... article is certainly shorter ...
And overall, i dont really feel like we know anything aboout Gortash except that he have robots and influence in Baldur's Gate.

About Ketheric on the other hand, we know when he lived (aproximately) what he did, why he did that, whats his tragic backstory, that he server different deity, and what kind (read as class) of enemy he will be.


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Theres books in act 1 that talk about Ketheric. Maybe we will get books about Gortash either in act 1 or act 2.

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Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
Originally Posted by Gray Ghost
They actually posted more details about Gortash than they did about Ketheric.
Bcs we know most things about Ketheric from EA ...
This is completely new character.

I dunno how to describe it, it just feels ... dunno, lesser ... video feels shorter (maybe its just my imagination tho, i didnt bother to compare them) ... article is certainly shorter ...
And overall, i dont really feel like we know anything aboout Gortash except that he have robots and influence in Baldur's Gate.

About Ketheric on the other hand, we know when he lived (aproximately) what he did, why he did that, whats his tragic backstory, that he server different deity, and what kind (read as class) of enemy he will be.

The video and article were longer because they were also covering other stuff about controller support and mechanical stuff, plus revealing the release date. And the article was mostly full of details about the collector's edition. If you look at the part about just Kethric, the article says basically nothing. As far as what we know about Kethric from the game, I've played EA several times and only ever really known that he was a guy who waged war and worshipped Shar. Literally nothing else.

These trailers aren't for our benefit either. They were put out at massive game showcases where lots of new people would see them. Their purpose is to attract interest in other people. You are in basically the same boat as the millions of gamers at the showcase that may have never even heard of BG3 before now. In fact, you're still better off because you have context for the game and where he might sort of fit in. In light of that, going light on spoilers makes perfect sense. But you're right that this trailer was lesser. Nothing of interest besides this random dude and his plot, that isn't even the main plot of the game. This trailer really was not well chosen for the job it had to do.

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I was dubious about the strategy of revealing antagonists, but actually I'm intrigued by Gortash. Someone who is insinuating themselves into the power structure of a city but has secret dark motives and possibly fascistic tendencies (I'm extrapolating from the noose and mechanical soldier) perhaps isn't the most original premise, but still has lots of potential if done well and with a novel twist.

As to whether this teaser will bring new folk to the game I have no idea. I'd guess that anyone interested enough in games to watch Summer Game Fest probably also, for example, reads most anticipated games of 2023 lists and so already has a good idea of what BG3 is so this is more about giving a vibe and whetting appetites than anything else. Unlike the release date trailer, It certainly wouldn't give anyone any idea of what gameplay is like, which I'd have thought would be something Larian would want to do.

But as I already know what gameplay is like, I enjoyed this look at Baldur's Gate and spotting some structures I recognised from BG1 and it got me even more excited to go back and see what's the same or different after a century away. I thought the golem or construct or whatever it was looked pretty cool. And I'm a lot more enthusiastic about finding out more about Gortash, who is clearly going to be excellently voice acted, than I expected to be. But not about his hair. The rest of the character model I'm absolutely fine with but I think that hairstyle is dreadful!


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Isn't Gortash Sarevok all over again? Besides being Bhallspawn he had the support of some cabal of Doppelgangers. This time Gortash is backed by the Absolutists, a front for Illithids?

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Originally Posted by Buba68
Isn't Gortash Sarevok all over again? Besides being Bhallspawn he had the support of some cabal of Doppelgangers. This time Gortash is backed by the Absolutists, a front for Illithids?

I think there are lots of echoes of BG1 in what we've seen of BG3 so far, but as long as they remain echoes rather than rehashes I think that can be a positive. For those of us who recall BG1 it gives us some fun parallels to ponder, and of course those who don't won't care. Of course, taken to an extreme it would make the game derivative, but I'm not yet seeing enough similarity to worry me on that front (and I'm one of the folk who found the call-backs in The Force Awakens way too heavy-handed).

As an aside, I'm not sure I ever understood exactly what was going on with those doppelgangers and why they were allied with Sarevok. The whole Iron Throne stuff made sense to me up to that point and was a fun plot to uncover, and discovering individuals have been replaced by duplicates is a well-worn classic for a reason, but I either never understood or have forgotten exactly what the point of it all was from the doppelgangers' perspective!


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