Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - General Mods and Achievements

A simple question. Will deactivate mods the achievement system ? Thanks for reading !

Anyone ?

If it's like previous Larian games, then yes. However, it's easily fixed (always is), and a mod to turn achievements back on should probably be available hours after release. For what it's worth, Steam has the most worthless achievements ever. You can toggle them on or off at will, even using a program that's now almost 10 years old if not more, with zero penalty, and it's not a bannable offense. Not sure why people still care about them. At least Xbox and Playstation achievemments are trustworthy showcases of accomplishments if nothing else.

Because most people don't go out of their way to CHEAT on unlocking their achievements?

Just a guess.

I usually use only visual mods, dont care the other stuff. Thanks for aswers !

The problem with mods disabling achievements is that it penalizes someone who downloads a texture pack to make the game either run better or look better on their system just as much as someone who installs a mod to give their character all 20's in every stat. Unfortunately there's no way for the system to check what kind of mods someone has so it goes all or nothing.

Point went over your head. Doesn't matter so long as you can, and easily so. That automatically devalues any perceived perception of accomplishment from feats on Steam unless it's just you and yourself enjoying them, which is fine. This is also the reason why you don't see a culture similar to "platinuming games" on Steam.

I'd argue you're already cheating if your using mods anyway, especially since Larian seems to agree, but hey, keep cherrypicking, I guess. Point is that yes, mods will likely deactivate achievements like DOS2, but the mod to undo this will be available pretty quick so it doesn't matter.

And thus someone can brag they got the achievement for beating the game on hardcore tactication and honor mode on, but not tell everyone they also used modded classes and a six person party, because whoops.

It just wasn't a very good one.
It doesn't matter that "you can". Most people don't. Most people aren't even aware this is a possibility.
I've heard the random dude like you coming out of the woods from time to time telling everyone you can cheat Steam achievements for YEARS at this point and guess what? I cared so little that I still don't know exactly how it works, because I didn't bother going looking for it.

On top of that achievements are inherently "worthless" and they mean something exclusively to the extent someone pays attention to them.
Incidentally I'm on all three ecosystems (Steam, PS4, a largely unutilised Game pass) and guess what? Steam achievements are the only ones that I occasionally check (both mine for the sake of completionism and my friends' ones just to compare what they played) and so that have some arbitrary, fictional "value" to me.

Once again, it went right over your head. I was mentioning that even an ancient program can be used to cheat, but you can also use trainers like those readily available in popular app WeMod, or just use mods with achievements turned on and heavily cheat a thousand and one ways, including achievement toggles or things that activate achievements automatically. This was a huge discussion in other games, like Owlcat's Wrath of the Righteous, to the point where modders decided to respect the wishes of devs and not include achievement reenable in their mods, one in particular that was mostly used for QoL features, only for someone else to tell them to go f themselves and add achievement reenable themselves, and there was a lot of discussion about how the mod made the prime challenge achievement of the game (I forgot what it was, hardcore mod, solo run, highest difficulty I think) a worthless accomplishment in the community. Mods and trainers are used by tons of people in PC gaming and they're both easy ways to cheese achievements and very often are by a TON of people.

Just because you're personally unaware of something doesn't suddenly mean it's irrelevant, it just means you're ignorant.


Yes, that's exactly my point. They are inherently worthless so I don't understand why people care about them. However, many people see them as badges of accomplishment, hence once again my pointing about the very different view of achievements for playstation owners. For that to be valid, their degree of challenge needs to be reasonably safeguarded. It's not on Steam. You could compare your friends' achievements, but you have no way of knowing whether they actually earned them or not. Maybe you care, maybe you don't, but you objectively can't be sure their achievements were earned as intended, you just have to assume so.

But anyway, I already pointed out that personal,1 on 1 value is actually a good use for achievements if you're just using them as self-challenge ticks. Did you even bother to read my post or were you too busy channeling your Inner Karen?

Isn't this a bit rich coming from the same guy who just furiously typed an angry essay about the importance of understanding that Steam achievements can be exploited with external software?

Let's try to reset this conversation to its fundamental parts, eh?

You: "Steam achievements are worthless. Why people would care about them?"
Me: "Because most people don't go out of their way to cheat them".

There. Done.
The rest of your rant is background noise.