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They could’ve written all the companions with storylines that were in no way connected with nature, or with devotion to a particular god, or with being an archwizard in love with Mystra, or with being in a pact with a devil, or with being an arch Druid. Larian chose to write the companions that way. Now it’s just like… these premises to companions dont matter.

EDIT:
Most DOS2 companions did not have class built into story, except MAYBE Sybille. They were written in a way that de-emphasised class. Not so here.

Being able to change companion classes makes no sense when you design their stories with their classes in mind. I can accept multiclassing them after lvl 1 but that is another thing entirely.

Humans have been made objectively worse now than all other races as there are no racial ASI and there is no variant version. Nobody cares about proficiency in light armor and halberds... Is this some sort of revenge because not everyone wants to roleplay a special snowflake tiefling?

This is 100% on point. I really hope Larian lock the classes and subclasses of unique companions. If someone wants a different party composition they can get hirelings but the classes and subclasses of the story companions are untoucheable. At least we can't change their races...thank god for that small mercy because you know someone would take these companions and change them into horrific monstrosities in the character creation.

I'm curious now. Keeping in mind that I don't know much, what about Astarion makes him specifically a rogue?

I'm getting a bit grumpy at having to keep reminding folk to be civil. For the purposes of clarity calling anyone "whiners" whether they are here or not is not civil (given it's a public forum and anyone can be reading).

Feel free to explain what you do and don't want to see, and to disagree with the positions of other people, but no personal insults and keep it constructive.

Even if you think you're just insulting people in a friendly, good-natured way, please don't. It very rarely comes across that way online.

EDIT: And when I get grumpy I probably post too quickly, so my apologies. I know the vast majority of you are just chatting and debating in a friendly, constructive way even when you personally are disappointed with some of the news coming out!

He kinda allready does that ...

I wonder if they reworked it somehow.

Thats a big relief. <3

This seems a little odd tho ...
I mean 20 is not that much and once could probably advocate is more ability to better pack, than being stronger ... still i wonder why this bonus.

Also ... any idea if this one and weapon proficiencies for Human are just part of this new "+2, +1" deal ... or if they will apply no matter wich racial bonus you pick?

WHAT!?!

Thats crazy!
Super crazy!!
I dont know how will i reason my character to do that ...
But i love the idea!

I... can't even. Honestly. What do you care about what others people do? You are seriously thanking god because others can't do something. Whether I agree with you or not, this attitude is sick. I'm sorry to say that.

Didn't know it was a thing.

This is NOT a Divinity game, this is a D&D game, and in D&D everything you do is hugely tied to your class and for a lot of classes their powers come directly from some kind of deity or supernatural entity that exists and is real and watching you and you do have to be very careful not to cross them. This would be a much lesser game if it did not acknowledge and fully display this in the game.

Astarion is something of an exception. I think the main concerns atm are:
-Halsin
-Jaheira
-Shadowheart
-Gale
-Wyll
-MAYBE Minsc

How is that sick?

All of those make perfect sense to me.

Because he's getting pleasure by controlling others. Even worse, he gets pleasure in controlling stranger's actions that would never ever have impact in his life. I'm sorry but it really shocked me.

Given what I've seen of Astarion in early access, classes that seamlessly blend in with Balduran (high) society make the most sense so rogue, bard, fighter to some extent, cleric at a stretch... Barbarian and druid probably wouldn't work imo and not paladin due to the whole vampire thing. But yeah, I don't really see anything about him which makes any class entirely implausible.

Sorry, sorry, that was just the first thing that came to mind

Right....
Gale the barbarian tried to cast magic too powerful for him (= a cantrip?) and had an accident...
Wyll the fighter made a pact with a devil for power. Which power exactly?
Shadowheart the devouted follower of Shar. Who is a cleric of Torm......

Is it possible that maybe you’re reading too much into the statement? I didn’t get the sense that pleasure was involved, more like a sense of relief that there are still some semblance of restrictions in place.

I'm not controlling others...that's just a bit less trolling and BS I have to be subjected to seeing. And I am VERY happy about that. No Orc Astarion, or Halfling Lae'Zel, etc.

Wyll? I mean, can't he be a fighter or an oathbreaker paladin who made a pact with a devil?
Few years ago I dmed Descent into avernus and my players were costantly tempted to sign contracts with devils. Even more, one of them were in constant contact with a devil, sharing informations and gaining powers. It's not like I forced him to stop being a barbarian and become a warlock, nor he learnt eldritch blast. Anyone can make a pact with a devil, but all warlocks made a pact with someone.

That’s fair, but there is something of an unutilized Chekhov’s Gun in changing Wyll’s class, in a weird, oblique way.