Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Suggestions & Feedback Missing Race: Githzerai

I was really impressed after i saw what they implemented in the final release. I have to admit that.

But o really do not understand why they have not thought (or decided against) of implementing Githzerai. For me it woud have been an obvious choice. It would have created some interesting interaction between the Githyanki in the game
and given players the opportunity to play a Gith that is not inherently evil.

Even the models should have been a minor issue since they are basically just smaller Githyanki.

Well ...
I can imagine some troubles with reactivity.

What puzzles me more is Variant Human ...
Same model, same lore, same backgroud ... same everything, just different stats.
And yet ... Larian refuse to include them ...
Whats even weirder tho is that it seems lately like they refuse to include regular Humans aswell ...

Makes me wonder whats the deal there. O_o

Maybe they just think that vuman is way too OP to have. They should've at least give humans extra ability points if there is no feat given.

I thought about making a post about this. If memory serves the race is Gith and githyanki and githzerai are most or less cultural sects of that race with markedly different values and a way of going about living. So listing the githyanki on the race tab would be a mis nomer in this case.

Well, more or less.

At some point in their history 2 groups of Gith had kind of a falling out...one group followed Gith and became Githyanki, living in the Astral Plane. The others followed a guy named Zerthimon and went to limbo that were Githzerai. Gith and Zerthimon had a brawl at some point. From then on they developed a little different. Missing a lot of details but something like that
They are mortal enemies and follow completey different ways of life and beliefs. Githzerai are a neutral race.

True. Maybe they scrapped the Variant for this strange new "put your stats where you want em" stuff.

waht you say about regular humans may actually be the exact problem...them beeing regular. With people in the real world starting to "define" themselves as something other then they actually are could have ended the "regular" Human Race. To me it seems all that had some not too small influence in BG3.
Or maybe im seeing things

Back to Githzerai...they managed dueergar and drow....and with githzerai beeing pretty stoic they might even have accepted to be recognizted as their evil counterparts at first and then just calmly clarifying the fault. Just the interactions with the actual Githyanki owuld have been difficult...or interesting .
I would have liked it. Since i remember that still from planescape: torment.

there is always DLC

Larians don't do dlc usually.

Thats not entirely true ...
Since DLC is defacto any downloadable content released post-release ... and they did several small free updates for divinity games as far as i heared ... that counts as DLC.

Also even if they dont ... someone will.
Im affraid (or hopefull, depends on point of view) that this game is too big and too easy cashgrab for WotC to leave be.
Larian are just developers ... ot would be nice if they would continue, since thematic vision would remain intact ... but developers can be changed easily ... sometimes even several times during process (looking at you, Bloodlines 2).

Bloodlines 2, there were problems during development. I can't imagine swapping developers after the game has ready shipped. Putting on a whole new team that barely knows how anytSing works isn't something I've ever heard about. Except with AW:ToR and I consider that different as its a long running mmo, not a regular game. I fully expect DLC for no other reason than whatever your feelings for what they've made, larian clearly has loved making this game, and I can easily see them taking the excuse to keep working on it and riding that high a while longer.

Yeah, No Githzerai seemed a wasted opportunity.
........
Also lack of Goblins.

You are absolutely right about the Githzerai, but sadly not just they are the „missing ones”!
Besides even if you play as a Githyanki, Lae'zel or the other Gith characters doesn't really acting toward to the M.C. as you are one of them... (at least that was the situation in the E.A. version which I played) So the M.C. in this way is already more like a Githzerai than a Githyanki, even from this view is more logical if they put the Githzerai in the game.

In one of my older comment, I mentioned the Duergars and the Aasimars are also completely (and from my view, totally illogically) missing from the playable races. From planetouched races the Tieflings already in the game so it would be logical if you can play as the Aasimar as well. Top of that the Duergars are already in the game but only as NPCs, and can’t be choose as a playable subrace of the dwarves.
(Not to mention that they messed the whole Elven race as it is: the Drow is a subrace of the Elves and I don't get where that "Highelf" thinking came from but the most common elven subraces in Faerun is the Moon Elves, and the Sun Elves the Highelf is a collectivenoun of the Seldarine Elven races)

It would be really great if Larian Studios already hear the players ideas and finally correct and expand the game's character creation part!

I'd have liked more planetouched character options as well, though duergar are in fact in the game now. They'll be available at launch.

yea...genasi

There certainly was something ...
Not sure what (and i doubt we ever will) but whatever it was, it had to be big, since they fired Heart and Soul of whole project out of the blue ...

I mean, thats just like if tomorow would some manager from WotC release statement, that Swen will no longer work on BG-3.
Crazy, huh?

You missunderstand me, i was talking about DLC, or Expansion ...

Its happening all the time ...
I mean, even if the company is the same, often they are completely different people. :-/

Me too ...
Just saying that even IF and that alone is huge if, Lariain woulnd be able/willing to make it, someone else will.

Thing is, They created part of Faerun with this and it is already huge. i have somewhere around 500 hours into EA ans still not even seen all there is. So just with this we have a long time and during that time they can buid new stories in this world if they want to. If they just read some of the novels playing in faerun it should give them millions of ideas how to grow this into an even bigger world.

I would certainly love to see that.

Again I heartfully agree! And even if they don't read the novels, but if they just read the good old "Forgotten Realms Campaign Settings" (Yeah I know that's a before "Spellplague" settings but the basics are clear in that as well) and use it, the whole game would be more corret and more Faerun like!
Thanks, I don't know that! It's a good news and really happy about it (I especially like the Underdark races), but sadly that's just one from the misses and mistakes...
It really would be great to see the Genasis with this graphic... there is soo much potential in that (and again a great missed opportunity), and not just as M.C. but more in number and more diverse companions as well. But sadly it looks like Larian isn't exactly open to the playerses this type of ideas...

So...do we actually have a year DR to BG3? Are we post spellplague? Did not even think about it. Elturels fall to hell is in the past but i forgot if it was pre or post. Having spellscars...nice idea but maybe a bit overboard. Gotta google the timeline...

We're in ... I can never remember. 1493DR, maybe? There or thereabouts anyway,. So definitely long after Spellplague and a decade or so after the Second Sundering, whose ramifications are presumably still being felt, as well as those of the events in Elturel from Descent to Avernus which I think concluded at most a few months before the start of the game.

I only remember it was supposed to be either 100 or 200y after BG-2 ...
IF that is any helpful.