Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - General Custom Tav Party in full game?

The game already allows and it built to accommodate 4 Tavs. That’s multiplayer. That throws out half your points. For the others, it’s our choice what content we miss out on.

But... With multiplayer you can play with 4 tavs, controlled by 4 different people (or 1 with the workaround - but the concept is the same). And this is a feature that they offer in EA and full game. So how can you claim these benefits for not allowing it. It is already allowed in the game in EA and will also be in the full game. Your post makes zero sense. Sorry. Are you really trying to say that Larian has not optimized a feature, that they themselves have made available to the players?

Eh ... nope. :-/

> Players who want full Custom Party dont want to experience NPCs ...
Thats why they have this demand, to avoid them ... they also know workaround, and will most likely use it, often for this reason exactly.

> I have no idea what flags are you talking about ...
There is allways only one person speaking, no way to swap them ... also, even our Origin companions have their flags and there is no conflict ... lets also not forget about multiplayers, where multiple PCs will be present at all time ... so "technical difficiulties" excuse cant be seriously applied here.

> You never please everyone ...
Sill ... how are people complaining about feature they are beging for for three years, and was promised it in the past ... any better than people who are angry they screwed their own game?

> Or they can do it again, there is still no benefit in keeping it.

> This argument is purely false, since ... and i repeat ... there is multiplayer.
Also, as it seems our Custom PCs are actually weaker than their Origin counterparts (Karlach's Rage cause fire damage, Astarion have his Bite, etc.) ...
So, there is no unballance.

As for test, it was tested for last three years, by each and every full custom multiplayer party ... and many people who used multiplayer workaround, just to either get rid of Origin characters ... or in order to test synergy between new classes (there was no other way to find out how party of Paladin, Bard, Barbarian and Sorcerer will work)!

> Again ... multiplayer.
Also, i cant really imagine any Bug or Issue conditioned by having custom character, rather than anything else.

> Same as anyone else? Nobody knows, nobody cares, show must go on not backwards.

Anyway.
I appreciate you tryed to find some reasons ... but those just dont seem too credible to me.

I doubt they are actively resisting it - more likely that between 4 instances workaround, hirelings and companions being fully respeccable, they just judged it’s not worth the hassle to implement a system that would allow for generation of 4 Tavs in a single player.

Are they tho?
"Fully" indeed?

Bcs from all information i got so far, it seems like there are limitations.
Quite important limitations for some of us. :-/

I played Dos 2 with non origin characters. Never felt the need to complain about 'missed content'. Why would I here?

What limitations would those be?

I am not saying those are perfect replacements for custom parties or at least merc generator, but they should cover a lot of ground. And if that’s not enough, there is always 4 instances trick - which while tedious, it needs to be done only once per playthrough.

Two things mainly ...

1) Hirelings are presented in last Community Update as "temporary" party members ...
Im not really sure what that is supposed to mean, but it dont make me feel like them being someone who will stick to my party trough whole adventure. :-/

2) Races seems to be set in stone.
I know its normal for DnD to play with diverse parties, but i was really looking forward for my "all Githyanki" full evil, full racist, full Githyanki party ...
For wich by the way, even work around cause problems (as i complained countless times in last few weeks) bcs game conciders our Tavs created this way as PCs no matter how many players is curently present ... and it blocks out certain conversations with companions, replacing them with meaningless (for single player) stating our opinion for PCs ... so gather some serious reputation with Lae'zel would be conciderably more difficiult using this way. :-/

And since hirelings are not supposed (to my knowledge) to have ANY influence on the story whatsoever ... i see no reason for such limits. :-/

MAKE THE HIRELINGS CUSTOMIZABLE (race, appearance + name)! That's all I am asking anyway. I don't need 4 tavs. Why would I need that? One tadpole is enough.

But yes: If we can be 1 tav + 3 hirelings OR 4 tavs (with 4 friends), why the hell can't we play as 1 tav + 3 CUSTOMIZABLE hirelings OR one player with 4 tavs (should one wish to do so). It makes absolutely no sense, as it is the same stuff you will miss out on either way.

The only thing they are keeping us from using is the character creation menu. And why would they do that? It looks amazing and people are going to love it! So why? Why? Whyyyyy?

I think that's what most people are hoping for. I don't understand not being able to customize them completely, unless there is a technical reason, or Larian really doesn't want us to customize them for some reason. I can't imagine their character creation menu is somehow locked only to a single character..unless somehow it's tied too tightly to the Guardian creation maybe? (or wait, do we even create the guardian now?) I don't know, I'm trying to think of a reason, but this is Larian we're talking about here, they know their shit.

+1000000000

Yeah, each hireling has a unique appearance and maybe voice set, but if I want to change that out for another custom character it really feels like I should have the option.

Oh well.