Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Suggestions & Feedback Shortswords for humans and half-elves, pretty please?

I think every person who knows how weapons work would agree that they would rather have Shortsword (and/or scimitar/rapier) proficiencies for humans than the random pokey sticks that they get.

There is no class that benefits from getting polearm weapons that wouldn't get them from their class features anyway. Strength is the dump stat for casters, and any class that uses strength as a primary attribute gets martial weapons anyway.

On the other hand, there are tons of casters that would benefit from being able to upgrade from a dagger to a shortsword or other martial finesse weapon since they are usually aiming for at least a 14 in Dex.

Can we get this message to Larian, please?

Somehow i fail to see any concection between Shortswords, Rapiers, or Scimitars ...
And Humans. O_o

Same apply to polearms tho.

What do you mean by "knows how weapons work"?

Polearms were much more prominent throughout history than swords. It is considered an ultimate melee weapon made by humans. Rather fitting, in my opinion.

Humans and H-Elves shouldn't get any weapon or armor proficiencies as a racial ability.

Give them a half-feat of choice instead and you can pick Weapon Master for 4 weapons of your own choice, and +1 Str or Dex. Or pick Lightly Armored for Light Armor and +1 Str or Dex. Or pick Resilience for a clean stat boost and Saving Throw. Or Athlete / Actor / Durable / or even Tavern Brawler.

I think choice is the key with those two diverse races. And who's ever going to pick those feats otherwise?

A good idea, I like it.

I dont ...
If we are arguing against homebrew, replacing it with another homebrew seems a bit hypocritical.

Take away the weapon proficiencies, give the human's a feat, give the half-elf's a half-feat. Everyone's happy. Seems simple enough to me.

How weapons work in 5E and BG3.

Apologies for assuming that it was understood I wasn't talking about world history, current manufacturing standards, or anything else unrelated to this forum..

Its alright, but honestly I don't recall a connection between shortswords, humans and hal-elfs in 5e or BG3 either...

elf get longsword , drow rapier because they are longlived and its assumed all of them get that basic training

a human wizard is assumed to spend his time reading books... you could take a feat or class that gives the weapon you want and just say daddy was in the city guard so trained us kids

So no feat for Humans but they get light armor and polearm prof. and increased carry capacity?
It would be (slightly) better if humans could pick certain weapons to be proficient with (if thats what theyll get).

Or just give them a feat. And that should make it easier for us to mod in custom lineage! Win-win.

And persuation proficiency

I much rather have the PHB human than any of these suggestions or the idea Larian is coming with.

While Dwarves getting Battleaxes, Elves getting Bows or Githyanki getting Greatswords and Medium Armor are also assuming the PC is a stereotypical member of these races, they are far less of a stretch than all humans learning to fight with Pikes.

Going down this same path with Humans is just a poor choice to balance the loss of their ability scores. You could have optional packages like "Dwarven military training" or "Guardsman training" that would give you that Proficiency package, but there should be a more generic alternative to it.

In general, Racial Abilities should be strictly genetic. Keen Senses for Elves, Fire Resistance for Thieflings etc. Skills and Proficiencies should only come from Background and Class. Hope One D&D corrects this.

Agreed. Spears and Shortswords would be a good pair for your standard human. Pikes and Glaives aren't exactly common, nor inexpensive, items.