Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - General Hirelings can only join your team temporarily? WTF!

What is the point of having a team of hirelings temporarily? Why can't we play with that team till the very end? Is that what Larian mean or have I misunderstood it? English is not my first language, so I appreciate I may have misunderstood. If you can only get hirelings temporarily I will be extremely disappointed! First Larian say it will be possible to have a full team of my making and now this BS.

No idea what it means. Maybe they can't be targets of revivify, maybe they only stick around for a few long rests, who knows? We're all speculating. Some are optimistically expecting the best, some the worst.

A lot of us are just waiting to see.

I have not bought the game yet, and my reason for buying will solely be based on this, so I will wait and see. If I can't make a party based on classes and races of my own choosing, I will not buy this game. I just don't understand Larians issue with Custom parties. Pathfinder does it well. Surely Larian can implement it.

time to get grease and fireball ready, I want my money's worth with hirelings.

Such a shame humanity hasn't yet invented something to allow Larian to share information with us.

You're entitled to spend your hard earned money how you see fit. When I choose a party based game my requirements are simple, give me the option to choose a fully customizable party, if not, you don't get my money! Plenty of other games coming out in the future which will provide that experience and I am happy to wait. Larian's current approach to custom parties is currently one foot in and one foot out. Either do it or don't, not this temporarily nonsense.

We simply don't have enough information on the hirelings. But yes, it does appear as if Larian really doesn't want us using them, making their appearance not customizable and using 'temporary' makes it seem like they're intentionally designing them to be a last resort situation.

Perhaps they just don't stay at camp. So they'll be with you until you dismiss them for another team and you have to hire them again? Would make sense. 20 people at camp is a bit much.

It is likely the way it is in DOS, the mercs you hired where 'temp' in the sense they could be fired at any moment you wanted to. I used the mercs entirely up to act 1, where they all died at Alexander, and I just bought new ones. Just like how in DOS the mercs you buy have a pregenerated name and set of starting classes - which you could respec, but they kept the spells/ gear they started with. This seems nearly 1:1 copy from dos based of what we seen

If that were the case, that would be acceptable for me. Just wish Larian would give clearer details about it - just have to wait and see, I suppose.

It'll be interesting to see how the Hireling system plays out once we get our hands on the full game on August 3rd.

I think of them as being Merc's they fill a need, they work for cash, they have their own agenda. Will see for sure when it goes live.

I was hoping for a PF/PE style merc system.

Still hoping that the "temporary" just means we can get rid of them if we want. I want the game to give me a way to make a party of my own without the annoying multiplayer approach. Otherwise, yeah, swing and a miss from Larian as far as I'm concerned with this inclusion.

I suspect that they die they die. There is a reason Withers is your go to for them. I suspect that you will have to get Withers to bring them back. IIRC weren’t they supposed to be dead already and had a debt to the hells to pay?

I don't think we have confirmation, but that seems like a real possibility.

The way to get people to use companions is to make better companions. They put all this effort into unlikeable 2d jerks and then try to strong arm players into taking them along? Why not just only have hirelings and fully customisable party members if you can’t make anything better?

That is at least also my impression.

In fact, the entire Withered character feels like someone who can cast Miracle a lot.
"You want to resurrect someone without having the corpse? Well I think that person has a destiny with you, so yes" - *casts Miracle*

"You want some long dead person to aid you in your task with another sword-arm? I guess that makes sense." - *casts Miracle*

"You want to change years of training, because you can no longer overcome your challenges? Unusual, but your task is important.." - *casts Miracle*

All things Withers does, fall in the realm of a Wish or a Miracle.

This is your regular public service announcement requesting that we keep it civil and don't get overheated

That's perhaps particularly important when stating our own subjective opinions without acknowledging them as such.

It'd be interesting if you had to give them a share of the loot, and they left the party when you transition to a higher risk segment of the story.

Maybe they don't level.