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The canonical race is clear - a White Dragonborn as was presented throughout the PFH.

Class is different though. We had some pieces of media with some hints on the matter.
The first is this video from BiBG posted before the PFH.
It leaves us with a sorcerer Durge and a devotion paladin Durge and the last one seems to be using bare hands to kill people, which is kind of a monk's thing? Also TDU seems to be connected to Bhaal somehow, can we squeeze a cleric in there too? Can one become a cleric against one's will?

My take is thus: Durge was initially a Paladin/Monk multiclass, turned evil by the goblin dude (fey?) and touched by wild magic, then gifted with the divine magic by Bhaal, lord of murder.

What would be the Durge's 'canonical' class (or combination of classes) in your opinion?

PFH one was wearing Monk clothes while aslo having Sorcerer dialogue, it might be a multi class of those 2.

Since the strong Bhaalish association I would go with an Assassin Rogue to be honest.

But I think a brutal martial class, like Barbarian, could also work. But mostly Assassin - same class as Bhaal himself.

Quite a boring pick, sorry.

Oone of those Ylutubers that got invited to play, mentioned the Deathstalker Cloak as a unique item for Durge.
Deathstalkers were priest/assassins of Bhaal. Deathstalker was also a 3.5 prestige class, that required you to be able to cast level 3 Divine spells [So, level 5 Cleric] and have some ranks in Stealth.

So, a Trickery Domain / Assassin? Actually a decent combo; I will make Shadowheart exactly this.

I don't think you can make a fair estimation on that, since its design to be whatever class you want, and commercials were too vague on that subject, but If I had to choose I would say way of shadows monk feel most suitable

All we know for sure is he knows how to stab people in the back and has a hat guy guiding him. I think everyone is proficient with daggers, so that doesn't really narrow our options. We apparently meet him at one point though, so the data miners will know within aa couple hours of full release.

I don't think there is a true canonical class. By definition, the DU can be any class

My advice is to try and play as one of the classes that don't have an Origin to them. The Companions (non Origin Characters who join the party) aren't as integral to the story as the Origins so try and pick a different class to add more variety. That leaves the Paladin, Druid, Bard, Monk, Ranger and Sorcerer. Plenty of variety and choice to make from them.

Don't have the opportunity to rewatch it atm, but wasn't it a dragonborn in PfH because that's what people voted for? And they went with the look from that silly flash comic because that's also what people wanted? I mean if that makes it "canonical" then any outcome other than Gale getting his hand removed is non-canonical cause that's what they went with during the panel 🤔

Yeah, they made an emphasis on the freedom of choice, thats why there isn't any like TRUE canonical class, but they certainly had a vision for the character while creating it - that is very likely given the art and the presentation. The whole memory loss thing and the urges you can RESIST and the art with a paladin supposedly murdering his travelling crew kinda screams a trope! The whole murder story is intriguing too and it presents the character as a skillful assassin, even though sometimes brutish.

The messy anchor kill screams barbarian and their mastery with improvised weapons, too. But the nimble escape after that with little trace.. its some sneaky class shenanigans, no doubt.

Can’t wait for the official canon ending of BG3 to star the canonical Dark Urge, a male fighter, Dabdel Dadrian.
Ok that’s the last time I’ll make that joke.

It was, and don't get me wrong, I am not referring to the gameplay part, rather to the introductory clip of The Dark Urge as well as the flash comic which is indeed 100% canonical and embedded in lore due to the BiBG mini-game. I mean, there is a possibility that the White Dragonborn is long dead by now and our Dark Urge is the new one, but if not, it is kinda clear that a canonical race just ought to be the White DB. Might as well ponder the class in that case!

The possibility that the hat guy is just using different mortals and infusing them with a metaphorical Dark Urge or a demon's soul is a cool idea.

There is no canon race or class or gender.

Thats why I wrote canonical in quotation marks. Even if there is no such thing officially and there was an accent on customization, there are clearly indicators of Durge very likely being a canonical character in the world of BG3.

Which kinda implies that there is a canon race, class and gender to this character, at least if its not a player character.

Besides, any other thoughts rather than 'no u'?

Fine. You asked for it.

The canon would be a dwarf male cleric of sharindlar who spreads his love to all women of all races (he's not racist) and majes an army of lovers who destroys all evil with their love.

Why? Because dwarves are awesome, and this way canonical, a dwarf would be the most pure hero of all time.

Having been somewhat invested in Blood in Baldur's Gate, I'm leaning White Dragonborn sorcerer.

The good news is the white dragonborn looks amazing!

The bad news is I have no idea how to roleplay a reptile? What the heck is this thing? I'm not even kidding. They look amazing, but is there anything even remotely human about them? How do connect to this creature in a meaningful way? I wouldn't mind playing it, but I'm having real trouble figuring it out. Can a mouth like that even talk like a human?

I always assumed that the 'default' appearance of the Dark Urge was it using the Disguise Self Spell, which is what made catching them so difficult, hence why we can customise their race, gender and class since Disguise Self is a fairly low level spell one can procure via scrolls, wands, items or as a learned spell. I am morbidly interested in why they made their killings so public, and what role Fel, the scheming little whatever, played in it. Curious to see how they play in game.

The thing is there IS a level of canon info we know from Blood in Baldur's Gate.

We know that they were a
For the people saying there is no "canonical" class and race, you're both right and wrong.

In terms of YOUR experience with the game, that's true.

In terms of the lore on it's own, he is canonically a

Hey, thanks for the input! I dropped BiBG two days before the PFH and I don't know the ending of the mini-game. Is it still available as an archive?

So, sorcerer he is... I wonder what kind? If it's Wild Magic, then sorcery could not be his inherent ability. But I can see Wild Magic being problematic when one is an assassin!