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My long shot is that the Dark Urge Character is actual one of the children of the now deceased Bhaalspawn. Maybe Abdel's, Maybe Imoen's, Maybe Sarevok's, etc. I mean Sarevok was married. That would also make ANY race/gender combo cannon as any of the Bhaalspawn could have sired progeny. Bhaal blood is potent and these would be grand children of a god. IIRC Bane only had one demon child and he resurrected through him alone.
Basic Tav is also possibly cannon, simply because the number of victims abducted. Each and every one of them could be Tav. What I am saying is that the both DU and Tav and all of the origin charecter's are cannon if the story is written correctly.
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How long does it take a dragon egg to hatch? Maybe Bhaal pulled a Halsin on a white dragon and the little scaly spawn didn't hatch early enough for the whole Sarevok fiasco.
Let's think, people. We need some out of the box ideas! We only have two days left to figure this puzzle out.
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I love that the story is once again Bhaal-related. Wouldn't be Baldur's Gate without the old man.
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How long does it take a dragon egg to hatch? Maybe Bhaal pulled a Halsin on a white dragon and the little scaly spawn didn't hatch early enough for the whole Sarevok fiasco.
Let's think, people. We need some out of the box ideas! We only have two days left to figure this puzzle out. You know, now that I'm thinking about it, what about a Bhaalspawn having been in the Astral Plane where time practically stands still? Would that Bhaalspawn have gotten mixed up in all the events so many years ago?
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How long does it take a dragon egg to hatch? Maybe Bhaal pulled a Halsin on a white dragon and the little scaly spawn didn't hatch early enough for the whole Sarevok fiasco.
Let's think, people. We need some out of the box ideas! We only have two days left to figure this puzzle out. Dragonborn are actually not related to dragons (that 4E lore never stuck) except in a distant "dragons created dragonborn" way.
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I love theorising, but please leave Abdel Whathisface out of it, that abomination doesn't exist for me. That said, Durge could be an avatar of Bhaal or a grandchild of one of the other Bhaalspawn ( hopefully minus the evil A word).
"We are all stories in the end. Just make it a good one."
Doctor Who
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One problem is that the semi canon dark urge is a dragonborn. If we ignore the (infertile) transformed humans for a moment dragonborn only appeared during the spellplague at which point Bhaal was already dead. So whatever connection the Urge has to Bhaal had to be created after Bhaals rebirth which was 10 years before the game. Its more likely that the dark urge is Bhaal with amnesia. Except the Dark Urge was active 15 years before the game. I'd guess a powerful follower that Bhaal is now using to collect energy and followers. Durge may even be part of the plot to bring him back in the first place. 15 years is oddly specific. I suspect that time was deliberately chosen to place Blood in Baldur's Gate shortly before Murder in Baldur's Gate.
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This might be a dumb question (and answered many times), but does a Dark Urge character have to look like that stupid lizard thing? Makes me think of the Gorn from Star Trek.
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This might be a dumb question (and answered many times), but does a Dark Urge character have to look like that stupid lizard thing? Makes me think of the Gorn from Star Trek. Dragonborn are one of the most popular 5e races and no you don't have to be one.
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This might be a dumb question (and answered many times), but does a Dark Urge character have to look like that stupid lizard thing? Makes me think of the Gorn from Star Trek. Dragonborn are one of the most popular 5e races and no you don't have to be one. Drgonborn surpass my personal goofiness threshold. But, that's just me. And I haven't seen any evidence of them being very popular in PnP. Tieflings, on the other hand, are very popular in my experience, especially with Zoomers and younger Millennials. And thank you for the info.
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This might be a dumb question (and answered many times), but does a Dark Urge character have to look like that stupid lizard thing? Makes me think of the Gorn from Star Trek. The feature of the DU is that unlike other origins you can fully customize its race, class and looks.
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This might be a dumb question (and answered many times), but does a Dark Urge character have to look like that stupid lizard thing? Makes me think of the Gorn from Star Trek. Personally I think some people are taking the idea of "canon" for this character way too seriously given that so far Larian have not declared anything canon for this game(and likely never will) but even if they did it would most likely not be the dark urge. So play the origin however you like with whatever race and class. On the official website Larian also list the Dark Urge as a "Sorcerer" and that seems like a really poor choice that doesn't fit the origin story and the theme of the rewards from its questline as we know so far. So I really wouldn't take the white dragonborn and sorcerer as anything more than Larian trying to give the character a striking look for promotional material so people would know which of their promotional stuff was intended to show the Dark Urge.
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This might be a dumb question (and answered many times), but does a Dark Urge character have to look like that stupid lizard thing? Makes me think of the Gorn from Star Trek. Personally I think some people are taking the idea of "canon" for this character way too seriously given that so far Larian have not declared anything canon for this game(and likely never will) but even if they did it would most likely not be the dark urge. So play the origin however you like with whatever race and class. On the official website Larian also list the Dark Urge as a "Sorcerer" and that seems like a really poor choice that doesn't fit the origin story and the theme of the rewards from its questline as we know so far. So I really wouldn't take the white dragonborn and sorcerer as anything more than Larian trying to give the character a striking look for promotional material so people would know which of their promotional stuff was intended to show the Dark Urge. Only that there is strong evidence that WotC will consider BG3, or at least parts of it, as canon.
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Only that there is strong evidence that WotC will consider BG3, or at least parts of it, as canon. BG3 is far more open ended than a lot of their modules where even with all the freedom the D&D offers it generally ends with the player parties defeating a predetermined boss. So if anything from BG3 is lifted as canon it is very doubtful to touch on or cross any player choice...it will most likely just revolve around the generic central idea of the rise and fall of the Absolute and the deities that were part of it. I wouldn't expect them to start nailing down the details of the dark urge and so on.
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Only that there is strong evidence that WotC will consider BG3, or at least parts of it, as canon. BG3 is far more open ended than a lot of their modules where even with all the freedom the D&D offers it generally ends with the player parties defeating a predetermined boss. So if anything from BG3 is lifted as canon it is very doubtful to touch on or cross any player choice...it will most likely just revolve around the generic central idea of the rise and fall of the Absolute and the deities that were part of it. I wouldn't expect them to start nailing down the details of the dark urge and so on. You mean like they did with Abdel?
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You mean like they did with Abdel? Entirely different thing, Abdel was defined because they decided to start doing novels and other nonsense...that isn't happening here. If there was a plan for novels or anything like that we'd have heard about it by now. WotC only used Abdel because he was already defined for the novels. But I don't see any of that happening here.
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