Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Suggestions & Feedback Death of vital NPCs happens too easily with dire consequences.

When a playable character dies, they get saving throws, followed by the ability to resurrect them.

When an allied NPC like gets their hp down to zero, they die instantly.

1. that hardly seems fair.

2. It can happen way too easily. for me both of these died in the very first turn of combat, to strong attacks from just one main enemy.

3. It had huge consequences for the entire campaign, changing the course of events.

The result of these, is that I felt a strong need to reload and try again, thus making me feel like I'm cheating - but the alternative was too much.

I suggest when all npcs are downed, they should get death saves, with the chance to be helped, followed by a few turns in which they can be revived. I realize protecting them is a part of the challenge in these fights but it's hard enough with death saves, if enemies do try to execute downed entities.

+1 to the NPCs you mentioned. First time I Felt pretty BS, so I reloaded the save and the second attempt for whatever reason it played out much more fairly.

I also have another NPC to add to the "made of toothpicks and bubblegum" list. Be aware that knowing the spoiler may save you significant headache as this character *can* be kept alive, but only if you do a specific thing. If you don't, they have no chance in hell of surviving for a pretty dumb reason.

In my playthrough went down so fast I thought it was a scripted scene that was supposed to happen like that. Apparently they did change that in a hotfix to be less likely to happen.

But I'm almost more annoyed by the fact that as a consequence,

And it is annoying that Revivify doesn't work on an NPC that just died. Especially when they have the habit of running straight into Cloud of Daggers after combat.

Good news: Isobel got her HP buffed in latest hotfix.

In my playthrough in these fights:



While these particular encounters could be retuned, as well as a few other problematic cases, the problem with NPC dying -> reload or 'fail the whole quest' is much more persistent and indeed happened to me with and more. The game should be more forgiving to allow honest (no savescum) successful playthoughs.

Good point how the


In hindsight, I also thought it would be a "they have to go through me first" kind of situation. But I didn't even get an attack of opportunity


So the mechanics of it got me by surprise. Would be funny if it wasn't so frustrating.

That fight is so bad too as multiplayer. I was pissed when this happened. It's the only time I have actively cursed Larian out. It's that bad as the ramifications are insanely deep.

Yeah, Just as 1varangian said.

The fight in the Last Light was really tough when I attempted it; Isobel will heal herself but she has to survive until her turn to be able to do that, I too needed a second attempt because my party was very poorly positioned when initiative was rolled so I just couldn't help her enough in the first round.

It's one of the big problems in BG3 compared to actual D&D; firstly BG3 has a habit of throwing enemies at you that are every bit as strong as your own party, but there's always more than four of them, so action economy is usually against you, even with allies. This makes many fights tough as nails even on "balanced" difficulty, unless you know what to expect. So going back to a save game for a do-over is very much a legitimate strategy, because far too often I've been ambushed only to watch helplessly as my party members are bonus action shoved to instant deaths or other BS like stun blasts during a surprise round etc. that your average DM wouldn't pull on you.

This isn't helped by the fact that uncontrollable allies in BG3 are completely suicidal.

In Act 2:

In Act 3:

Unless there are some major allied AI improvements coming to help them behave like they actually want to be alive, it would be better if allied NPCs were put under player control; those that are recruited by speaking to them should be given to whoever spoke to them, anyone rolled in randomly should be distributed evenly.

In my game both of them did not regenerate hp after battle so in the next battle they started with half HP.