I tend to not purchase or play games until said games are polished and complete. Although I patiently waited for years through EA until a full release of this title… after studying the comments here and on other fan forums, I have concluded it would be best to wait and see how the post-release game evolves. Occasionally, I will play a newly released title if I am very comfortable with the development studio and know what to expect in terms of release product and subsequent bug fixes. It is not a matter of money, but of time… if I like a game, I tend to spend hundreds (or even thousands) of hours with it…. In that context, it has become clear to me that this game isn’t yet worthy of my time.
For those of you playing this title, enjoy! And please, keep pushing Larian to make a great final product for me to play! lol!
You are wiser then me, and a person of refined culture. I did that with dos2 and had a blast. I gave larian the benefit of the doubt..... I will not do so again.
Sounds like a reasonable plan, as long as you don't get hit by a bus or there is some other civilisation ending disaster in the mean time. Then you're going to look pretty silly
(just a joke, hope you take this comment in good humour).
He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster.
If you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.
I have to say, I've advised people currently still playing other games to wait *at least* for patch 2. Bg3 -- in its current state -- is not worth pushing to the top of your gaming queue.
It will be a far better experience in the future. If half the datamined content is implemented, anyway. A fair gambit if you don't have a lot of time for gaming.
I have to say, I've advised people currently still playing other games to wait *at least* for patch 2. Bg3 -- in its current state -- is not worth pushing to the top of your gaming queue.
It will be a far better experience in the future. If half the datamined content is implemented, anyway. A fair gambit if you don't have a lot of time for gaming.
What makes you think anything like half the datamined content will be implemented? People seem to have strange ideas about what gets dredged up with datamining. While it can be stuff developers wanted to include that was cut for time or performance reasons, it can also be parts of long abandoned story lines, ideas they played with that were never fully developed or integrated into the rest of the game, things they just didn’t think worked, etc.
I’d guess there’s elements of all these things in what people have found, but there’s a lot of bold claims about it all being stuff that was “supposed” in the released game. I’d treat such claim with a fair amount of scepticism or you might be setting yourself up for future disappointment.
I have to say, I've advised people currently still playing other games to wait *at least* for patch 2. Bg3 -- in its current state -- is not worth pushing to the top of your gaming queue.
It will be a far better experience in the future. If half the datamined content is implemented, anyway. A fair gambit if you don't have a lot of time for gaming.
What makes you think anything like half the datamined content will be implemented? People seem to have strange ideas about what gets dredged up with datamining. While it can be stuff developers wanted to include that was cut for time or performance reasons, it can also be parts of long abandoned story lines, ideas they played with that were never fully developed or integrated into the rest of the game, things they just didn’t think worked, etc.
I’d guess there’s elements of all these things in what people have found, but there’s a lot of bold claims about it all being stuff that was “supposed” in the released game. I’d treat such claim with a fair amount of scepticism or you might be setting yourself up for future disappointment.
That's just the thing: I *do* think an epilogue and the tied in companion endings is *reasonable*. It's what the game needs to be bumped up from an 8/10.
You lose nothing from playing it later. I wasn't very optimistic at first, but much of the dropped content is surprisingly developed and reeks of last minute cuts. See it this way: if nothing else, people won't get any of the game breaking bugs. Nor the majorly annoying ones.
The game wasn't finished nor polished when it came out. Not in my eyes.
The most important cut content, *if* you haven't watched it, but do want a summary:
That's just the thing: I *do* think an epilogue and the tied in companion endings is *reasonable*. It's what the game needs to be bumped up from an 8/10.
You lose nothing from playing it later. I wasn't very optimistic at first, but much of the dropped content is surprisingly developed and reeks of last minute cuts. See it this way: if nothing else, people won't get any of the game breaking bugs. Nor the majorly annoying ones.
The game wasn't finished nor polished when it came out. Not in my eyes.
The most important cut content, *if* you haven't watched it, but do want a summary:
Right. This is exactly the same “summary” that’s been bandied around on Reddit, Steam, here and probably other places. This time in video form with a bit of added speculation by the person who made it. Again with very little detail on what was actually found.
Some of it probably is “cut content” that was “meant” to be the game, such as:
Upper city (since it was mentioned by Sven), some more endings for companions and epilogues, etc and they probably tie in together.
But there’s a lot there I’d be much more sceptical about:
Whole regions for Avernus and the Shadowfell, a Bhaal assault on the Githyanki crèche, etc]
On what basis could you say any of that is “surprisingly developed”? Exactly what has been found?
I’m just saying that lots of people are taking these claims entirely at face value and getting their hopes up it’s all going to be “restored” at some point. For many of these examples, there might well be very little actually made to restore, assuming we can really trust this source in the first place.
Personally I’d like to see a LOT more evidence for much of this before spreading it around further.
That's just the thing: I *do* think an epilogue and the tied in companion endings is *reasonable*. It's what the game needs to be bumped up from an 8/10.
You lose nothing from playing it later. I wasn't very optimistic at first, but much of the dropped content is surprisingly developed and reeks of last minute cuts. See it this way: if nothing else, people won't get any of the game breaking bugs. Nor the majorly annoying ones.
The game wasn't finished nor polished when it came out. Not in my eyes.
The most important cut content, *if* you haven't watched it, but do want a summary:
Right. This is exactly the same “summary” that’s been bandied around on Reddit, Steam, here and probably other places. This time in video form with a bit of added speculation by the person who made it. Again with very little detail on what was actually found.
Some of it probably is “cut content” that was “meant” to be the game, such as:
Upper city (since it was mentioned by Sven), some more endings for companions and epilogues, etc and they probably tie in together.
But there’s a lot there I’d be much more sceptical about:
Whole regions for Avernus and the Shadowfell, a Bhaal assault on the Githyanki crèche, etc]
On what basis could you say any of that is “surprisingly developed”? Exactly what has been found?
I’m just saying that lots of people are taking these claims entirely at face value and getting their hopes up it’s all going to be “restored” at some point. For many of these examples, there might well be very little actually made to restore, assuming we can really trust this source in the first place.
Personally I’d like to see a LOT more evidence for much of this before spreading it around further.
The epilogue and companion endings? Mostly fledged out dialogue and voice lines. That digging is the reason we know for example, that the current end of Halsin's romance is what happened originally if no romance flag applied. Unsurprisingly, people in a romance with Halsin hated it.
It's also why we know how Karlach's avernus ending isn't certain death. Yes, the og good ending tied to the upper city, but this one has scraped voice lines for each origin. E.g. Zariel is afraid of dread vampire Astarion (??). Even Minthara is out for blood, etc. Minthara would probably have been scraped, though. Why is she there?
You've got to think and keep expectations in mind. I don't think Larian will redo Cazador's boss fight. They likely won't add Avernus outside of an equally improbable DLC. The epilogue and the cut companion content I'm most positive about since they don't have to tidy up too much. It's work, but it's exponentially less work.
Add an epilogue. Remove the red herrings in various companion storylines that make the player feel cheated out of an ending. Tidy up weird bits like whatever happened with Halsin. Remove the bug infestation. There you have it, a (reasonably) complete and polished game.
Thank you for your valuable input, my friend. We are all very interested in your wise insights and really care about your important decisions regarding this game.
Looking forward to you creating new threads, please keep us updated about new developments in your thought process concerning when and why you will purchase BG3.
It is all extremely exciting and beneficial to the community here on these forums ??
Okay, this thread seems to mainly be attracting sarcasm and/or duplication of discussion already going on about specific topics elsewhere on these forums.
Everyone is of course free to decide whether and when to buy the game, and to say that, though it's true that repeatedly making the same point in different threads isn't encouraged.
However, it's not going to help make the forums usable to have tons of different threads for different people deciding not to play now, so I will leave this thread open for anyone else who has decided to wait to explain why if they wish.
If we want to discuss specific things that might need patching or updating, then let's take that to a more appropriate thread elsewhere. And if we want to be sarky, let's keep that on other side of our keyboards!
"You may call it 'nonsense' if you like, but I've heard nonsense, compared with which that would be as sensible as a dictionary!"
For people who would want to get the best experience of their first playthrough, I'd also recommend waiting for a definitive edition. I finished the game and even though I liked it a lot, I regret playing it now instead of a year from now. I had fairly few bugs, but it's obvious that a lot of late content has been a bit rushed or not yet included, or will benefit from some changes.
To the OP, I agree with you, you should definitely wait, I wish I'd waited. To everyone who doesn't like waiting, go ahead and play the game, it's really good regardless, just not nearly as polished as it will be in a year.
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