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I want to take Laezel and the others and go to Tunarath and kick the lich queen's ass. How do you look at such a DLC?

She's level 25 and a lich, she's got dragons and stuff, so the party will be able to pump a few more levels



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I'd like to see this as a background conflict that you hear about in the next few games, so it feels suitable epic and universe changing? Or a Laez themed DLC adventure, set decades later covering the end? but not to have it, finish quickly as a side adventure to the absolute? it feels to be big for this treatment to me?


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That would be a great choice for a DLC...unfortunately it kind of requires the player to have engaged in the gith plot line in a particular way, when it's entirely possible to just... not.

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Would fit my playthrough perfectly. Any DLC that plays after BG3 needs to retcon some things. The ending where Tav
dominates the Brain
cannot be canon, of course.

To be honest, I wouldn't mind if a DLC would make a certain story canon. The same happened with BG2 Thrown of Bhall, too. The PC obviously did not become the new
God of Murder
, even though that was a choice in the game. And some characters are still alive in BG3,
like Jaheira and Minsc
, even though they probably dies in many playthroughs of BG 1 & 2.

So Larian could just say: the canon ending is: t
he Brain is dead, all Party NPCs survived, a deal with Raphael was made, Orpheus is free, Lae'Zel either found out about Vlaakith during the game OR has decided to rebel against her between BG3 and the DLC
.

But I might be biased, I just want more adventures with my Tav and Lae'Zel =).

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I think that sort of retconning is fine for an actual sequel, but for a DLC that just feels extreme, no one would want their choices to be invalidated so completely within the same game, pretty much.

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Originally Posted by SiriusVI
Would fit my playthrough perfectly. Any DLC that plays after BG3 needs to retcon some things. The ending where Tav
dominates the Brain
cannot be canon, of course.

To be honest, I wouldn't mind if a DLC would make a certain story canon. The same happened with BG2 Thrown of Bhall, too. The PC obviously did not become the new
God of Murder
, even though that was a choice in the game. And some characters are still alive in BG3,
like Jaheira and Minsc
, even though they probably dies in many playthroughs of BG 1 & 2.

So Larian could just say: the canon ending is: t
he Brain is dead, all Party NPCs survived, a deal with Raphael was made, Orpheus is free, Lae'Zel either found out about Vlaakith during the game OR has decided to rebel against her between BG3 and the DLC
.

But I might be biased, I just want more adventures with my Tav and Lae'Zel =).

The canon version is great. Deal with Raphael was made?

Great, after Vlaakith we will have a new DLC!

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If I'm to choose DLC theme, I would prefer Nine Hells, Snow zones, grim rainy forests, but defintely not Githayanki theme, I don't like their culture & how they look, not to mention their behaviour, though their behaviour is a good reason to kick their skinny butts.

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Originally Posted by Vindold
If I'm to choose DLC theme, I would prefer Nine Hells, Snow zones, grim rainy forests, but defintely not Githayanki theme, I don't like their culture & how they look, not to mention their behaviour, though their behaviour is a good reason to kick their skinny butts.

First, Vlaakith, then we will kill all nine archdemons of Hell bowing before Raphael, and in the end we will take away the crown from Raphael!
We will travel between the planes, and Laezel will fly on his personal red dragon.

The first DLC will raise the level cap to level 16, the second to level 20. We need an epic adventure!



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Expansion could go into both chasing down Vlaakith and also Avernus, should be possible for stuff up to level 20 in such areas, so basically 2 more acts for those two things.

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We have not seen the end the following factions and leaders:
-Vlaakith
-Hells, particularly Avernus and Zariel
-Illithids, where there were all sorts of mindflayer societies not involved in the game but must be none too pleased.
-The Dead Three
-Shar
-Prominent Drow Houses


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I am all about it, the game really make me want to fight vlaakith, to me either vlaakith or rapheal with the crown are obvious dlcs though I guess the second doesn't work because most people kill him.

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Originally Posted by Vindold
If I'm to choose DLC theme, I would prefer Nine Hells, Snow zones, grim rainy forests, but defintely not Githayanki theme, I don't like their culture & how they look, not to mention their behaviour, though their behaviour is a good reason to kick their skinny butts.

A gith civil war sequel wouldn't take place just in gith places, they are a planar AND spelljammer civilisation, so you could be flying a stolen nautiloid or spelljammer ship around, fighting on different planets, caught in a three way,
O-V-MF war trying to stop other worlds being consumed in the crossfire? I'll just go back to the world sequel though, as it's both too big for a civil war and too dependent on characters and actions that the player might not take or have in their party?
Also Laez is better than Wyll/Karlach themed hell DLC as if you choose one side of the act 1 choice you lose those characters, but not all L play throughs will cause the civil war

A whole Gith sequel story could never even step food in a Gith building even..

Given the post-credits scene, I suspect D3 are the big bads of a sequel tho

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Minthara is the best character and she NEEDS to be recruitable if you side with the grove!
Also- I support the important thread in the suggestions: Let everyone in the Party Speak
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For all the talking up of Mind Flayers as the "main" villains of BG3 and their inclusion in the logo and their being part of the initial idea by Larian, I feel like we barely scratched the surface of Illithid lore. No Mind Flayer colonies or societies, no competing Elder Brains, no different ceremorphotic creatures beyond Mind Flayers, barely any activity in the Underdark or planes, no alhoons or ulitharids. Combat encounters I would have liked to have seen include:

-Brainstealer Dragon (Tadpoled Dragon) or Elder Brain Dragon (Elder Brain fused to a Dragon)
-Mindwitness (Tadpoled Beholder)
-Vampiric Illithid (Would have been nice for Astarion's story)
-Neothelid (Giant worm that results from a tadpole never undergoing ceremorphosis and eating everything)
-Brain Golem (Self-explanatory)
-Urophion (Tadpoled Roper)


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In a sequel about a three way conflict, maybe your PC (either continued from here or a new PC) could play off and eventually side with any of the three factions? or bring them all down. then you could see lots more MF without them having to be the main villain of it? As BG3 used them so much it I'm sort of sick of them?

Also speaking of dragons we didn't see
We didnt even really get to see a dragon? Only those gith red dragons who, while red dragons they aren't the intelligent powerful red dragons of faerun, but just dragons as mount sub-class feat. It'd be nice to meet a dragon at some point in this new shiny graphics age.


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Another missing content in the DND game. First , game heavily introduce to that , and then it gone ,poof, nowhere to be found.

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Come on. This is a great scenario for a sequel and an epic adventure.

Vlaakith, Zariel, and the rest, epic battles, and epic rewards and situations. Traveling between planes, the Wish spell that all the fans have been talking about and stuff like that.
Continued romances and character development.

I'm assuming a canonical version of the ending of BG 3 is needed for this to be possible, with a few minor cosmetic changes. But I think the players would be sympathetic to this.



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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
Come on. This is a great scenario for a sequel and an epic adventure.

Vlaakith, Zariel, and the rest, epic battles, and epic rewards and situations. Traveling between planes, the Wish spell that all the fans have been talking about and stuff like that.
Continued romances and character development.

I'm assuming a canonical version of the ending of BG 3 is needed for this to be possible, with a few minor cosmetic changes. But I think the players would be sympathetic to this.

I mean if it's off world, in the planes or space, or just not near BG city, then either ending *could* work. Either you're the same characters or new ones, have an import or a design with choices (like how PoE2 does it) and sometimes people mention it but you aren't there so it doesn't majorly effect things? A few random guest characters or alt dialogue to relfect? MAYBE? for a sequel but not a Vlaakith sequel


As the ending would NEED you have spaced Orpheus and supported Laez in coming to believe in him, or else there is no Vlaakith storyline to have!
You can go have adventures elsewhere with either option, hey aren't you the guy who destroyed BG with that giant brain? If the storyline involves you getting transported across the planes or etc then you'd have either fighting to get home or fighing to get back to my evil empire! but, for most of the stuff people are asking for DLC/sequels to deal with are explicitly companion side-quest based so unless you ended them the right way, no way
You can't have going to hell to save K or W if your character sided with minthara and never had their side quests, you can't go take part in the Gith civil war if you didn't do Laez's quests so there isn't one?


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Also- I support the important thread in the suggestions: Let everyone in the Party Speak
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
I want to take Laezel and the others and go to Tunarath and kick the lich queen's ass.

Me too, i hope Larian will consider making Menzoberranzan in future. Really wish to experience city of drows, feel sense of danger in every corner... i think this location have big potential for nice dark stories.
Avernus sounds great too.

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