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So im starting a pnp dnd campaign as a player on tuesday and figured id share my fun build. Hopefully someone can use it! shadowheartgiggle

-Be a dwarf. (Mountain dwarf especially)
-Get light and medium armor proficiency.
-CON and STR+2 as well.
-You gain a few martial weapons and a tool proficiency! Background gives another 1 laezelapprove
-At lvl 4, get heavy armor proficiency via the Heavily armoured feat. Raises STR to 16 to. Or at lvl 8 if you can wait that long. Int is fairly low so maybe raising int at lvl 4 and waiting for lvl 8 to get the heavy armor is a better idea... Incase you get hvy armor later on raise int and str at lvl 4 for a 16 in both. OR. Alternatively get both 2 ASI points in int. Heavy armor feat gives +1 str as well. So raising int to 17 at lvl 4 allows you to take a half feat at lvl 12 to get int 18.

Your a dwarf MAGE wearing full plate. GG! You can smack things ontop of your spellcasting!
Recommend starting stats from my end:
Str15 (13+2=15)
Dex14 (14+0=14) Gives+2 AC until you get heavy armor, raises initiative and some weapons use Agi I suppose) but figured id give the specific reason why dex is fairly high for a Dwarf smile
Con14 (12+2=14)
Int15 (15+0=15)
WIS8(8+0=8)
CHA10(10+0=10)
One could swap WIS or CHA depending on preferences.

These stats are used because we play with standard array. If we werent id raise STR to 14(+2) for a STR of 16 starting out! Id lower CHA to 8 to achieve this. In that case raising INT early on is a must because even more STR is actually kind of counter productive for your class skills as your spellcasting is done by Int which is lower then a secondary stat.... Getting chef at lvl 4 could be nice to raise INT and getting some roleplay benefits at the same time could also be an option approvegauntlet

Well im off to send my characters sheet! Will let people know after tuesday how it went if they want to know smile

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Go for it!
Maybe lower the DEX to 10 and use a shield until you get Heavy Armour feat? At which point Magical Duels get decided by Muscle Wizard casts two-handed AXE!
Or start as Fighter and multiclass at 2nd lvl, then at 4th Wiz/5th Char level take Heavy Armour Mastery?

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No shield proficiency sadly or I would use one. WIth probably a hand axe or warhammer in the 1 weapon hand. That said a quarterstaff 2 handed is still a pretty decent back up weapon smile

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No shield? I thought it was a racial trait ... suxx!
A two handed quarttyerstaff also good. After pitting his mastery of the Weave against another wizard, he will claim victory as he outbrained his opponent.
Get it? Out brained! Har! Har!
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Any reason to not just take lvl 1 fighter for shield and armor proficiencies?

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What levels I got is limited. We are playing Rime of the Frostmaiden which at its apex will mean we are (just) lvl 12. If I multi-class I dont gain heavy armor (few methods to gain it outside of the feat actually) and only gain proficieny in shield, all simple and martial weapons. The martial weapons are nice but are a far-far afterthought. Spellcasting is still the main attraction of my character. Im the only full-caster. It also shift the level at which my INT would raise to decent levels by another level.

I just got an update from the DM that we start at lvl 2 so I did update the character sheat. Most of the spells I got arent in BG3 incidentily and are more for roleplay then for actually doing damage xD

Like unseen servant. My wizard is lazy and lets the servant do all his chores for him laugh

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So we had the first session today, just got home laugh

Was a blast. The campaign apparently has this little 'personal secrets' thingy that you can roll on. I first rolled up that my character wasent the race he appeared as but was in fact, a shapeshifter. This sounds superfun, but it really broke the group dynamic and the background lore we had for our group so the DM let me reroll. And I got the owlbear whisperer feat instead! I hope I get to use it! laugh laugh

Anywway the party was:
Me, red haired wizard.
My blonde brother, bard.
My black haired brother, Artificer.
And brown haired brother, dex fighter.

Were all dwarves and brothers. Half of us are mountain dwarves and the other half are hill dwarves. We all have different appearances to. This wasent planned but just became a running gag to be honest. Ages vary from 152 t0 somehting like 210.
We are on a quest to start/revive the family business which was *error404 specifics not found*. What it is exactly doesent really matter and the dm was fine with us not really fleshing it out. We needed a reason to turn into adventurers so we became disgrunttled guild artisans who are trying to setup our own company. My characters interests lie in alchemy and brewing. So hes probably trying to create potions. Or booze. Or something thats both!

I wont spoil the story who people who might want to experience the campaign themselves. But lets just say we are tasking with finding a person. Because this person did something naughty to toher people. And the other people dont want the naughty things to continue.

First roll of the day for me was a nat20 to recollect information. We tracked our target (somehow) to the proper place and found him. Trying to pry information from the target was....unsuccesfull. My dwarf got into an argument with the target and somehow insulted him. My brother were about doing other shenanigans and none of die rolls agree with us frown we decided to follow him from a distance. So we sat in the local watering hole where he frequently showed up.

I decided to try and be helpfull in this case so while the bard was playing music and was entertaining the other locals I catch on to some other gossip that might come in later. Especially juicy information is a mine overrun by Kobolds in the place where we just came from. Since we need to head back there anyway for our reward, thats pronably going to be our next stop!

Once the target entered the watering hole, drank abit and then left again we tracked him. Since we were trying not to get noticed while doing it we roll stealth. I rolled.... a 8. With my bonuses included. And wasent actually the lowest roll in our group. So the target noticed we were there. Since we needed a cover up we decided to act drunk and start playing music and sing songs. Bard gives my wizard a hand drum while he plays *error404memory not found, some instrument* and we both roll. The bard rolled a nat 20. Nat 20! F yea! He says as he holds up his hand to fist bump me. I say very cheerily, NAT 1! And give him the fistbump. The other player also rolled...poorly but dont catch on what the roll was exactly. But long story short, we make such a ruckus that we lose the contact and get a reprimand from the townguard who....quite politely. Tell us to cut it out. Or to do it in the local inn.

After the reprimand we retrace our steps and catch our contact in the process of beeing naughty. We grab our hammers and sealclub him into the ground. While almost having half the party die in the process. He was a tough one. Or were just weak at lvl2. But nah that cant be it, so he was just strong.

Incidentily. Me and the bard both have the highest STR at 15. This isent the.....traditional party. The wizard has the highest STR value. May god help us!

We got a live witness and we got other proof of the naughty. So we return to the quest sender and collect our 100gp reward. Next week we (probably) are going tin investigate the Kobold mine! smile

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Good for you and your group!
Have FUN!

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If the wizard has the highest STR you might want to settle on a pack beast. We started my Pathfinder campaign with an ox, that after an encounter with baba yaga turned it into a dimensional ox, capable of shrinking and teleporting through the planes and stuff.

Was heckin weird.

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Ask your DM if he'll allow Shield Mastery to also give shield proficiency. It's a pretty common houserule, and it gives you a way to get shield proficiency that isn't short-changed on value. If yes, it's a much better value than taking heavy armor proficiency. Getting INT to 20 will be your priority for that DC wink

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The DM is abit strict in what he allows. He generally only wants phb stuff because thats what he knows. He did allow 1 player to play a artificer and ive asked him if the feats from Tasha's are oke but he hasent gotten back to me yet. Its worthwhile to point out though that the DM took over beeing the story telling for me so I can recover from my operation at my own pace. If I have to sit a session out or something that way doesent stop the group from having a dnd night. So I dont hold the restrictions against the DM. It can be.... challenging to play with source books you dont know and half of the players at least have a bit of a power-gamer mentality.

Taking shield mastery kinda goes against the heavily armoured feat because the idea was to be a heavily armoured wizard. And a shield doesent have the same charm as wearing full plate wink

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I'm a bit late to this, but a common build is to have 1 level of Cleric or Artificer for armor and shield proficiency. If you go Cleric there are some great spells that Wizards don't get, and also don't rely on your Wisdom. The Guidance cantrip, Bless, and Healing Word all come to mind. If you start with Artificer, you get Constitution Save proficiency.

As a cherry on top for either, your spell slot progression is not affected at all. The only thing you sacrifice (spell-wise) is on odd levels you're one level behind in spell progression, even though your spell slots are unaffected. So on those levels you just upcast.

Example: At level 7 you would normally be getting 4th level spells, but you won't get them until 8. But you'll still get the 4th level spell slot, so you can use it to upcast whichever spell you choose.

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Thanks for the input smile but im not trying to make an optimal build.

Ive been having this idea in my head for an armoured mage for a while now and I finally get to test it out. Its been years since ive had a chance to be a player at a DND table. I dont begrudge my place as the forever DM but its sometimes nice to be able to be a player as well, you know? Most of the group are doing equaly goofy and/or stupid things. smile The DM has been wanting to DM this for ages as well so we are all having a good time.

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Originally Posted by SeanJP
If you start with Cleric you also get Constitution Save proficiency.
Just to correct some misinformation, this is not the case in either BG3 or 5E. Sorcs, fighters, and barbs get CON save prof in BG3.

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Originally Posted by Fluff
Originally Posted by SeanJP
If you start with Cleric you also get Constitution Save proficiency.
Just to correct some misinformation, this is not the case in either BG3 or 5E. Sorcs, fighters, and barbs get CON save prof in BG3.
Correct. Clerics get WIS and CHA save proficiencies.

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Originally Posted by Demoulius
Originally Posted by Fluff
Originally Posted by SeanJP
If you start with Cleric you also get Constitution Save proficiency.
Just to correct some misinformation, this is not the case in either BG3 or 5E. Sorcs, fighters, and barbs get CON save prof in BG3.
Correct. Clerics get WIS and CHA save proficiencies.

Yeah, that was a mixup on my part. I was thinking of artificers, one of the good one level dip options for wizards.


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