Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Build Discussion Help me pick a class.

I had this problem in early access. I never finished it, either.


Same problem in other games, too. Restartitis.

That said, I picked up Tigara, my half orc barb last night, and it was fun. Throw barb.

Aaaah OK nothing to do with Pally and Charisma at all then.

Its +7 then though. Proficiency is +2 at level 1, +3 at level 5, +4 at level 9. Thats of course character level, not class level.

Ah you are of course correct, thanks!

You're tiring yourself out with constant restarts. Just pick one and stick with it. I played with a fighter and really liked it, I think the problem isn't finding a class but progressing with a character concept you like. Human Fighter with a beard did it for me, I find it hard to stick to anything non human/half-elf for some weird reason.

Ah, see, I can't play humans. I find them pretty boring and don't play them unless there's no other option... or it's Skyrim, then I play Nord because they remind me of Vikings a bit, and their lands remind me of my own country. haha.

And yes, I'm tiring myself out with restarts. I picked up my bard again to retry that one, respecced her to swords and it's so far not bad. We'll see if I stick with it though.

Yeah thats probably the gist of the problem.

Unfortunately the game is really hard in places, and the OP has exactly the problem that he cant solve some battles.

I too have just wasted hours upon hours trying to save the last victim of the Hag in the swamp to the southwest of Act 1, to no avail.

I think its telling that the OP progressed the furthest on a Sorcerer, which seems to be the most powerful class in the game. Though a properly skilled Githyanki Fighter seems to be also a very powerful choice.

Sorcerer is very powerful, but the most powerful seems to be strength based 6 open hand monk / 4 thief rogue / 2 spore druid

Well, that and just building a box stairway to heaven and orbital dropping a wild shaped owlbear druid.

Interaction (regular interaction as well as fights) is heavily influenced by skills. So it isn't a requirement to just create a character that is able to blast away any enemies. You need more than just damage. Sometimes you want to hide or steal without being caught - sleight of hand wins, and every skill that is able to enhance your ability. Sometimes you seem to be overwhelmed by many enemies at once - you need to somehow disable the most dangerous of them to survive, then deal with the rest, then deal with the first. Spells can help with this. There are skills that boost your abilities in combat or weaken your enemies. This is often more efficient than try to directly blast the enemies away.

So a good way is to not just create one character that aims to do this all (which isn't possible) but create a party of 4 characters that all bring together a good set of different skills to be successful. You don't need to do it all alone, you're a party of 4 characters, 4 different classes, 4 different skill sets.

If you went most far with Sorcerer, try it again. Or if you found a different class that was not that bad, use that.

And this time look what you missed most in your previous playthroughs. What did kill you? What skill or feature did you miss to be successful? And from this, choose a different companion team. At level up, give your companions skills you previously missed in a fight.

And include the environment into your fights. You can push enemies into chasms to kill them. The cheesy bonus action "shove" might kill a powerful enemy if the terrain and positioning allows it. There are potent spells that push enemies around this way. You can throw grease, and your enemies get prone. Then hurl a fire bolt into the grease, and they're burning. At least in Act 1 and in the beginning of Act 2, there are so many barrels that explode if you hurl fire on them, you can blast them away with a cantrip. Initiate fights with ranged weapons and let your enemies waste their first turns by dashing into range. Make them run through grease and fire. Make them drop their weapons. Explore equipment looted and available from vendors that might add additional skills and see if there is synergy with your own skills. For example, your melee fighter might profit from a teleport skill to get in melee range fast. Much equipment adds "free" skills or "always prepared" skills you don't need to learn or provide spell slots for. If you see the game this way, every class is viable.

Draconic sorcerer, yes.

Never said I was good at the game. I often hit roadblocks in game, then restart. This paladin smiting jackass that never, ever misses took the wind outta my sails.

The specific fight I'm having trouble with is the one at
I have sorcerer working on adds, karlach, shadowheart and astarion focusing boss. Boss will be almost dead and this facking paladin comes in and lays the smack down, usually annihilating whomever he hits in one round due to smites. And he never misses. There's usually still casters alive too.

Group is tiger heart barb(karlach), trickster cleric (shadowheart), and thief/gloomstalker (astarion), with my fire specialized dragon sorcerer.

I can respec anyone, but the only one I have is astarion. My sorcerer has the highest ac(lol shields).

I didn't so they're in the fight, too.

I play on balanced because I like multiclass capability, and I tried this fight on explorer even and never got it. Next major boss fight also has me reeling at the thought of it.

When a mob gets multiple attacks per round, crits like a b, smites on each hit and wrecks your characters in one turn idk what to think.

I know I'm not a great player but damn.

My party i think is lvl 7. I didn't do mountain pass so I wonder if I should say, go back and do that? Or have I hit the point of no return?

I think trying to do that at level 7 might be your problem.

I had no harpers, they all died at last light.

Can't go back at that point.

I ended up banging my head on it for a bit and got it. I missed a ton of stuff though, so I'm likely to replay it at some point.

I need a new robe. Bad. Lol. I didn't get the one from the rescue

Oh, it’s probably a completely different fight then. Is there anything else left to do in area to get another level? Seems a bit low, which is good news really. It means you’re probably not at bad at this as you think you are.

Nothing left, I moved to act 3. No town made all the quests vanish.

Might continue the bard though, just so I can keep up with the content I missed.

I couldn't find my way into the creche so I never did it.

I asked a question and forgot about this thread, apologies for that.

If you were playing a battlemaster fighter and still felt you were one dimensional then I think you are going to want to play as some kind of caster. A Warlock/Paladin multiclass might be best if you still want to be a main damage dealer while getting more options in how you play.

I don't have a save where I could try the fight against Zrell as you'd have experienced it so I tried attacking her in the tower. I put away my best equipment, set it to tactician and played with Lae'zel, Wyll, Shadowheart and my character who I'd respecced as a sorcerer. I was level 8 at this point so I reset the party to fairly basic builds at level 7, except for Lae'zel who I took Great Weapon Master for as her level 6 feat.

First I had Shadowheart cast Hold Person on Z'rell to bait her counterspell (I think a cantrip would do here, but just to be sure) then twincast Haste on Lae'zel and Wyll. Shadowheart then cast Sanctuary on my sorcerer. Lae'zel proceded to tear Z'rell apart in short order, I used Precision attack followed by trip attack, then enabled great weapon master and used the rest of her superiority dice on precision attacks. Her and Wyll killed Z'rell in a single round that way and proceeded to take the rest of the enemies on that floor apart.

I don't know if that's helpful to your building as a fighter, as a sorcerer, how to get past that encounter next time or generally. My group would be stronger with Lae'zel and Karlach rather than Lae'zel and Wyll if that gives you any ideas for group composition, e.g. playing yourself as the fighter, respeccing Gale as a sorcerer and taking Karlach so you get to be the damage.

Sounds like you just decided to go with an absolutely terrible outcome that locked you out of a whole bunch of things, as well as having a skipping a section earlier. Did Lae’zel storm off in a huff too?

Actually quite impressed you stuck with it to see how it went, but that must really be playing hard mode. Probably much harder than tactician and playing like most people would. ie reloading if everything goes really tits up.

You probably should have led with that instead of telling everyone you are bad the game.

Don’t suppose you have a save around arriving at the inn? It’s a fair amount to repeat, but you could mix int stuff you didn’t or couldn’t do before, so probably not too painful?

Edit: Unless that result was a deliberate choice, in which case, I’d have thought the game should account for it? I’ve not tried that route, so don’t know.

if you play tactician and by any chance pick sorcerer, do not choose WIld Magic, i played this in my first playthrough and can't even count how many times had to reload a fight because I summoned a hostile mephit or cambion at the worst moments that turned the tide of the battle lol

No save before the inn thing. I quicksave a lot rather than hard save and only keep five(to keep save folder bloat down) so I'm screwed. I tried keeping her alive but all the winged freaks flanked her and her AI is awful.

I just decided to keep with it. I also wasn't reading many guides and didn't have halsin in my party.

I haven't spoken to lae'zel since it happened, she will probably leave but it's OK, I don't like her much. In my one playthrough, she killed me and got annihilated so she's dead.