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I was wondering if anyone knows if there is more pieces of lore in the game that mention Gortash’s connection with the Nine Hells and his past?

I just saw that I skipped an area in the game where an NPC mentions that Gortash had been a prisoner in Raphael’s House when he was younger. Considering he has connections there and is in cohorts with Zariel to a degree, I wanted to know if anyone else found more information like why was he imprisoned in Hell, or what kind of dealings he had there?

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1. He had been a “guest” who was tortured in the House of Hope of Raphael when he was younger (also, in which layer of hell is the house of hope? I know we use a mammon coin to get there, and that tells you which one it’s supposed to be…) Does anyone know why he ended up there?

2. He was/is an arms merchant who dealt in infernal iron enhanced weapons. He had connections in the hells for the infernal iron, though I have no idea with whom or where in the Hells.

3. He sold Karlach to Zariel in Avernus (and it seems there had been a bargain of sorts there, since the Steel Watch is at least based off Zariel’s infernal machinery). Was there more information on why he sold off Karlach? When we meet him in Wyrms Fortress he mentions Karlach fell out of favor with him, but I found nothing else.

4. He went to the hell realm where Mephistopheles had the crown of Karsus to steal it (and… is Mephistopheles Raphael’s father?)



Those are the connections I remember, which make Gortash a guy who seems to be very close to the Hells.

I like the lore of the Nine Hells a lot and it made me curious that Gortash seems to have a past closely related to it, but we never get the full story there. Do we know more about him?

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I believe his parents sold him to Raphael, they needed the gold. I could be wrong though.

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One of the origin/companion characters actually react to the revelation of Gortash being sold off to Raphael now that I remember. Father was a cobbler, poor family and needed the gold.

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Originally Posted by indomitnotable
One of the origin/companion characters actually react to the revelation of Gortash being sold off to Raphael now that I remember. Father was a cobbler, poor family and needed the gold.
Yes, Karlach, because of her backstory with Gortash.

And yes it was the parents selling him off. You actually can meet them in the house above the one, where the hag survivors are meeting.


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Originally Posted by fylimar
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One of the origin/companion characters actually react to the revelation of Gortash being sold off to Raphael now that I remember. Father was a cobbler, poor family and needed the gold.
Yes, Karlach, because of her backstory with Gortash.

And yes it was the parents selling him off. You actually can meet them in the house above the one, where the hag survivors are meeting.

I didn’t notice! Thanks. Great parenting. Now it makes sense why he got such a connection to and knows so much about the hells.


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dude just stole one of the most powerful artifacts in existance off the nightstand of one of the most powerful devils in existance but we're not even told how, because there is no way he could have ...

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Originally Posted by Skin Overbone
dude just stole one of the most powerful artifacts in existance off the nightstand of one of the most powerful devils in existance but we're not even told how, because there is no way he could have ...

I do feel there is/should be waaay more to this story.

I mean, in game we invade and steal from Raphael, but stealing from Mephistopheles sounds wild indeed


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Also, is it ever made clear how HE became the Chosen of Bane?
I think a lot of his backstory is behind the cut content of the Upper City. And I would loooove to hear more about him.

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I would also like to learn more about Gortash's past and how he got chosen by Bane, he is one of the main antagonists, would be nice to get more background on him. Hopefully, in the Definitive Edition, Larian will include the Upper City to bring some character stories/quests together. The game has so much potential to become even better if they take their time working on restoring some cut content and implementing newer content.

And I believe Mephistopheles is indeed Raphael's father. I think Mephistopheles gave Harleep to Raphael to keep him distracted from causing him problems.

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