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As a separate issue, I would prefer if Larian fixes what's already in the game. I would also like them to consider implementing several quality of life mods, such as situational UI.

There are features I myself want, but recognise should take a backseat. There is such a long list of tweaks the game desperately needs before I would even consider it *ready* to invest in more "extra". That includes, not in the least, an ending where we may actually fix the hell engine, Halsin as a proper poly romance, a better ending for Astarion, and ironing out whatever went wrong with a certain Githyanki prince.

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Respectfully, those are paraphilias. A paraphilia is precisely not a sexual orientation, but a fetish. Some paraphilias are also classified as a mental illness (pedophilia). Every paraphilia is considered a common enough mishaps in the developing "love map" of the human brain.

Sexualities and sexual orientations include: hetero- and homosexuality, bisexuality, asexuality. These sexualities can be found all over the animal kingdom. They are hence natural states.

Polyamory has NOT been historically considered a sexual orientation (because you can be poly and of any sexual orientation). Polyamory is as much a kink as monogamy is, because it's its direct opposite. I like this definition:

"Polyamory is a form of ethical, or consensual, non-monogamy that involves having romantic or sexual relationships with multiple partners at the same time. Ethical, or consensual, non-monogamy describes relationships in which all parties are aware of and consent to practice non-monogamy."

The default state of most humans is monogamy, but not all of them. I know this is hard to imagine. If it helps, ask yourself: "Are male lions absolute perverts to seek the company of this many females... or are they wired this way?". If you look, there's really all sorts of configurations out in nature. It's just an evolutionary preference based on cost/investment per mate. It's a separate axis from what gender you're attracted to. But, it's also not a paraphilia (as said, those other non monogamous species out there aren't universally perverted)
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I'm not sure why you've quoted me in this pile of thoughts of yours nobody here asked for, but whatever.
I'm not interested, I absolutely don't give a damn about those concepts invented by some smart and also no-so-smart people. Be prepared to be lectured for naming only 4 sexual orientations, though. Unthinkable in 2023 lol
Also looking at humans as mere animals maybe insulting on its own, but it has some truth nevertheless. As I said, I couldn't care less.

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Originally Posted by Faust-RSI
Originally Posted by Silver/
Respectfully, those are paraphilias. A paraphilia is precisely not a sexual orientation, but a fetish. Some paraphilias are also classified as a mental illness (pedophilia). Every paraphilia is considered a common enough mishaps in the developing "love map" of the human brain.

Sexualities and sexual orientations include: hetero- and homosexuality, bisexuality, asexuality. These sexualities can be found all over the animal kingdom. They are hence natural states.

Polyamory has NOT been historically considered a sexual orientation (because you can be poly and of any sexual orientation). Polyamory is as much a kink as monogamy is, because it's its direct opposite. I like this definition:

"Polyamory is a form of ethical, or consensual, non-monogamy that involves having romantic or sexual relationships with multiple partners at the same time. Ethical, or consensual, non-monogamy describes relationships in which all parties are aware of and consent to practice non-monogamy."

The default state of most humans is monogamy, but not all of them. I know this is hard to imagine. If it helps, ask yourself: "Are male lions absolute perverts to seek the company of this many females... or are they wired this way?". If you look, there's really all sorts of configurations out in nature. It's just an evolutionary preference based on cost/investment per mate. It's a separate axis from what gender you're attracted to. But, it's also not a paraphilia (as said, those other non monogamous species out there aren't universally perverted)
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I'm not sure why you've quoted me in this pile of thoughts of yours nobody here asked for, but whatever.
I'm not interested, I absolutely don't give a damn about those concepts invented by some smart and also no-so-smart people. Be prepared to be lectured for naming only 4 sexual orientations, though. Unthinkable in 2023 lol
Also looking at humans as mere animals maybe insulting on its own, but it has some truth nevertheless. As I said, I couldn't care less.
Either way, you have your answer. The one from a psychiatric and neurobiological standpoint. Nobody will look at you odd for saying "I find X paraphilia gross". People with paraphilias know these are gross to most people. Since this is a public forum, unfortunate strangers will however gift you with their pile of thoughts.

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Originally Posted by Silver/
Either way, you have your answer. The one from a psychiatric and neurobiological standpoint. Nobody will look at you odd for saying "I find X paraphilia gross". People with paraphilias know these are gross to most people. Since this is a public forum, unfortunate strangers will however gift you with their pile of thoughts.
Maybe I wasn't clear enough, but I will try again - I wasn't asking you anything (especially not about sexual orientations, never mentioned anything like that at any of my posts). So I don't need any answers from you.
I asked the authority with the right to judge as, peasants.

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Originally Posted by Faust-RSI
Originally Posted by Silver/
Either way, you have your answer. The one from a psychiatric and neurobiological standpoint. Nobody will look at you odd for saying "I find X paraphilia gross". People with paraphilias know these are gross to most people. Since this is a public forum, unfortunate strangers will however gift you with their pile of thoughts.
Maybe I wasn't clear enough, but I will try again - I wasn't asking you anything (especially not about sexual orientations, never mentioned anything like that at any of my posts). So I don't need any answers from you.
I asked the authority with the right to judge as, peasants.
Curious that your response to "please respect people of all sexualities" was one of "where is the limit to tolerance?"... listing paraphilias. You'd think the solution would be quite self evident.

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I don’t think any adult, good faith poster with basic consideration for their fellow forum members should have any difficulty understanding what we mean when we say these forums should be a safe and welcoming space for all, regardless of sexuality.

And as I’ve said before, if people come here and rapidly show they don’t have such basic consideration, and in addition fail to respect repeated warnings from moderators, then the assumption will be that they are not here in good faith. Trust and a certain level of forbearance can be earned over time, but neither Faust-RSI nor Brutality are now going to have the chance to do so for quite some time as they’ve earned themselves long suspensions given repeated troll-like behaviour during their brief time with us.


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Oh, wow... Okay, so back to the topic! Personally I actually like how all of the characters have their orientation on the matter. I'm not sure if it makes them more realistic or what, but I find it a good experience to realise that we players can't actually have everyone of them just the way we would want to. Some don't tolerate if Tav even suggests an open relationship, while Halsin doesn't want to have a closed relationship, and then there seems to be a lot in between. So in that sense, I don't feel like I'd need changes to their orientation. However, if they did, it wouldn't bother me either if they made more characters open to try some kind of different arrangement.

Btw, while I really don't want to wise off here, I'll still point out that a character can't be both mono and poly, so I just assumed you suggested that Tav could have another relationship while being with Karlach, one way or another.

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No she shouldnt.most people are not okay with poly, so most characters should not be. If you want to have a harem fantasy go buy a porn game. If anything most Characters in the game should have more restrictions on thier romance options.

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Sometimes I think people get so caught up in catagorization they forget to have an authentic experience.

The people who sold you the boxes to climb into don't care about you. They just want you to get into one of the boxes they made.

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I'd prefer if they did the opposite and removed the ability to date certain characters if you were a sex/gender/race they were not interested in.

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