Larian Studios Forums General Chat Using Netscape

Hiya,
I was running Internet explorer but found I had to continuesly log in everytime I went to other screens on this forum so I changed to Netscape which doesn't seem to have that problem. Being new to Netscape I found that when I move my mouse curser over something I dont get the info box on it that I used to with Explorer, does anybody know if and how I can make this work for Netscape, Ive looked in the "Help" section and checked the "preferences" but cant find the option.

Well, that is correct.

The HTML-"programming" (the so-called "tags" ) are defined by the official W3C Consotium. They define how Internet Browsers should interpret them.

What you call an "infobox" is actually a hack by Microsoft.

Microsoft *never* cared much for standards - they used to define them themselves, in the result oppressing them to the whole world. That "infobox" is just another example.

What you call "infobox" is the "alternative description" of an image. Webmasters *can* include it, but need not to.

According to the *official* rules, they shouldn't be displayed EXCEPT when the picture is not available.

Microsoft is actually breaking these official rules by the W3C Consortium, and implemented them as what you call "infobox" , these small pieces of text floating above pictures (buttons as well, as they are often pictures, too).

So Netscape implemented it according to the official, world-wide standard.

I know for Mozilla (the open-source precessor to Netscape) [Mozilla Firefox in my case] that there exists an so-called "extension" which lets Mozilla actually act like the Internet Exüplorer in that point : It actually shows these things you called "infoboxes". You must download it first, though, but it's only a few KB big. You'll find the way to it through the options, tools, and then extensions.

Alrik.

http://www.mozilla.org

alhough i use netscape, it's a few versions older than mozilla, considering the fact that netscape is using mozilla's engine.

alrik's firefox is one such incarnation of mozilla, just like netscape. it may be better for u to use mozilla (don't get the beta version) instead. al' also right about microsoft not complying to W3 standards for World Wide Web. in fact microsoft never intends to, the way i see it as it keeps implementing more & more stuff which are propriety. function-wise it may be nice & all, but it prevents other browsers (especially if u're using other OS) from browsing MS-loaded webpages properly. that's not friendly at all.

one of the thngs i love about mozilla or mozilla-based browsers, is that u can disable pop-ups. IE is still talking about implementing this in future upgrades.

Thanks all, ah... uh .... I'm much wiser now..... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />I think ....hehe <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

As a software tester who's main flow of work involves web-based training programs, I can sincerely say I despise Netscape in all it's shapes and forms! It gives me no end of headaches and errors, it looks rubbish, it's slower than IE, and for localisation it's a nightmare!!!

I have to check stuff in IE and Netscape which triples my workload as Netscape is always a mess! I wish it would crawl under a piece of malicious MS windows code and die!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />

Same here, we just gave up the compatibility with netscape and our productivity has doubled since then

Re: Using Netscape....but, my question is......... why?
it sucks more than george micheal....... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

The reason why I'm made to use it is because some over zealous project managers whine that if their course is seen by just ONE netscape user and it doesn't work, the PM will hear about it from the client!!

I try to tell them to not make it part of the requirements, but apparently the clients word is law, even if everything in netscape looks like it was dragged backwards through a tub of alphabet soup with poorly cut out magazine photos thrown into the mix!

Netscape - DIE DIE DIE! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />

Here's a website for all you Web Development lovers <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> It's pretty good (and I can't remember if I've posted it before).

Advanced Site here

oh my... it starts really nicely <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

I bow down to the greater wisdom and plead ignorance and forgiveness for using Netscape. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sad.gif" alt="" /> I only started using netscape cos I was having trouble with my computer, I had some spyware on my machine which caused problems with my IE (it would start loading but nothing happened) and even after removing it IE wouldnt work. I ended up having to download Netscape which worked with no trouble. Then Netscape wouldnt work,(Fugging spyware <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/memad.gif" alt="" />) but IE began functioning again somehow, now both are working. I dont know what I did or how, anyway the reason I use Netscape is that I have problems staying logged on the forum (not just this one but others too) with IE, Ive got the latest version with updates etc but always seem to have to log in every time I move from browse a thread to my home or anything like that, but dont seem to have that problem with Netscape. I use IE for general browsing.

Sooo.... am I off the hook for using such a lousy browser???? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

I hope what you are saying does not apply to Mozilla because Mozilla is so superior to IE.

hmm I think the letters "IMHO" are missing <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Mozilla is so superior to IE.
Security
Documented IE security flaws to which Mozilla is not subject
Security suvey reveals more breaches with IE than Mozilla.

Advertising
Mozilla has a built in popup blocker. IE does not.
Mozilla has a downloadable ad blocker. IE does not.

Tabbed Browsing
Mozilla has it. IE does not.
Tabbed browsing makes web surfing more easy, convenient and powerful. For instance it gives you the opportunity to set simultaneous multiple web pages as your home page in comparison to IE which allows you to set only one.

Customizeable
Mozilla's official extension page gives you a long list of available extensions to enable your browser to do almost anything you could want. I once downloaded an extension which allowed me to reload pages automatically. I found it lacking in a few respects; I sent my feedback to the developer and within one month he adapted all my suggestions and incorporated them into an updated version. You will never get that kind of response from IE.

Up to date
The following is a quote from Jugalator at The Amazon Basin.
"IE's HTML engine itself hasn't seen any maintenance since 2001 (if not looking at heaps of security fixes) and even back then it was falling behind. If you're looking for a developed HTML engine, you're better off looking for Mozilla, Opera, Konqueror or Safari. IE development to improve standard support has halted. It will soon be 3 years since Microsoft even touched its basic feature set, much less its standard support."
Mozilla by contrast is being continually updated.

So we have several objective reasons which support the statement that Mozilla is superior to IE. Not just my opinion.

i, janggut with blindfold on, support cleglaw.

*tapping on chin for a while*

AND! and also detest all IE lovers! yes! that's it! detest! *chuckles gleefully before*

BANG!!

*janggut in a stupd smile on the floor with plowking snorting in satisfaction with pan in hand*

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

so there u go! mozilla is much better. better not use netscape, lady foxfaye. it's a few versions older than the current version of mozilla. & yes, i'm repeating myself. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

plowking, what do the author(s) use to make the content for web-based training? MS frontpage? loaded with active-x?

We don't support Mozilla so whether it's better or not makes no difference. I haven't used it, and I can't as I need to keep my computer fairly clean.

IE does what it says on the tin so I'm not bothered, at least the stuff developed here works and looks fine when compared to dodgy netscape. Though netscape 7.1 is a lot better than the previous versions. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

One guy here does use Mozilla for surfing and swears by it, so I'd reckon you're right about it. But he has a different job. I don't have the luxuary of being able to use it here! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> aah! but I use IE6 sp2 with a Crazybrowser front end <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" />