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#911031 10/10/23 12:03 AM
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Greetings, I’m fairly new to gaming and fully new to D&D. I have completed a couple play throughs of DOS1 and DOS2 so my familiarity with Larian games helped me get going on BG3.

I’ve been reading posts about the difficulty of BG3 for new players but I suspect those mostly relate to early release. My wife and I are playing co-op on the PS5 and we are just shy of level 12, I’m 5 levels of Warlock and 6 of Fighter. I tend to obsess over character build, buffed armor and perks.

I have not found combat to be terribly difficult in fact about right for me. I never eat, almost never use battlefield assistance like firewine barrels etc, just mainly using cantrips, spells, main weapon and positioning.

But nonetheless I am not sure I’ll start back up and finish. This is surely a product of the type of gamer I am - I pretty much hate puzzles and leave those to my wife while I Google and read to her. My issue is that we want a rich gameplay experience so we want to try as many side quests as can. But beginning around the Shar stuff in act2 it began to feel too hard to flow in a proper order as too much time spent Googling. Now in act3 I am really over it.

I don’t like the idea of just playing the game and let things flow based on my ignorant choices, we already had to go back a save when we learned the consequences of not saving an NPC so now I have that fear of ignorant choices impacting how the game plays out. So looking at the remaining quests we have and wanting to get them right, I am spending so much time Googling that it causes me to pause and consider stopping.

A long read to get to this question (sorry) but am I overthinking and should just play knowing I’ll miss new gear from puzzles, will miss quests and may not like the outcomes? Are we missing simple clues about the proper order to quests and treasures or are we expected to have to do lots of research to get it ‘right’?

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I don’t like the idea of just playing the game and let things flow based on my ignorant choices, we already had to go back a save when we learned the consequences of not saving an NPC so now I have that fear of ignorant choices impacting how the game plays out. So looking at the remaining quests we have and wanting to get them right, I am spending so much time Googling that it causes me to pause and consider stopping.

See, I think this is where you're going the wrong way. Of course, objectively, there is nothing wrong with playing like this.

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If you ask me, BG 3 is the kind of game you actually should let flow and not use a guide to go through it. I've been enjoying it so much (almost 240 hours worth of enjoyment since launch) specifically because I can have 3-4 playthroughs at the same time and, chances are, they'll be at least slightly different.

I've gotten to act 3 by myself, and I've also gone and finished the game with a couple friends, and lemme tell ya, those were two different experiences. I didn't use a walkthrough in mine, and while one of my buddies linked us to a doc showing where every weapon is and how you can find it, we only just skimmed it once and relied on a) what we already knew from our separate runs, and b) what we felt was right/cool/fun, so we can see where the story goes.

And I can say, personally, that if you let the story flow, let yourselves get immersed and try to roleplay a bit too, it gets very, very fun. For myself, if I start a new run, I'll not only create my custom character but, during the creation screen I also come up with a personality and a bit of a backstory for him, and take it from there as I play. This is actually why I wanna play a chaotic good Dark Urge next, for example, simply because the roleplaying potential seems really, really cool.

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am I overthinking and should just play knowing I’ll miss new gear from puzzles, will miss quests and may not like the outcomes? Are we missing simple clues about the proper order to quests and treasures or are we expected to have to do lots of research to get it ‘right’?

Anyway, I got a bit long winded there, but for the tl;dr: you're not at all expected to do it "right". There is no actual "right", I think. Just relax, have fun, and immerse yourself in the game. That's also kind of the whole point of D&D, at least as far as I see it; you can min-max and crunch the numbers and so on, but the game is supposed to be an adventure (with some math), not just a math class so you can get progressively higher numbers.

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This is a long game, if you are getting frustrated just take a break and come back. I spent 80 hours just in act 1 & got burnt out a quarter into act 2. Been a bit personally and starting to get the urge to continue.

I personally take my time and try to find stuff on my own if I miss it I miss it no big. If you like googling you do you.

Have fun whatever you do.

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Thanks for the replies, we were unable to save an NPC in a certain village and as such not only lost that NPC but had to kill EVERY single person there including a vendor/key Karlach storyline person and decided to redo that original fight, it made us hit the brakes and become Google bloodhounds so as to try and avoid similar outcomes. Then the Google fest began and only increased going forward.

Taking a few days off to see if I can shift and get back into it w/o so damn much time on the laptop! I played my first game at age 61 and I'm a bit of a Goldilocks player who thus far only likes RPG co-op offline games and there aren't many so to stop in this one kind of sucked. I threw a similar fit with DOS1 after having played DOS2 3x, but went back and finished so...

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Oh yeah, now that you mention it I don't recall playing that many rpg co-op games with my bro. I did play DoS1 & 2 for sure, don't think we ever finished one and did two, twice or three times.

I've played Grim Dawn with one and two other players, this is more of a diablo-ish game.

These others I'd recommend but haven't played mulitiplayer with them personally.

Solasta: Crown of the Magister newest DLC included 4 player co-op
Dungeon Siege 3
Neverwinter nights enhanced edition (I actually played co-op on the original NwN before dlc a real long time ago, good stuff)
WilderMyth

always looking for good co-ops if you recommend any feel free to toss them my way.

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We lasted a bit into Diablo 3 but the foil chewing caffeinated pace became too much. Other than that it’s been the 2 DOS games. I played DOS2 first and thus liked it better, if I had played 1 first maybe I’d like it more.

Just not many tabletop co-op RPGS so thanks for the leads.

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play it like normal turn bassed rpg, its better to not know dnd rulez and use just normal crpg rulez


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