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#912755 12/10/23 03:29 AM
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hi just want to confirm damage calculations.

felt like this game is too ez using dex builds, i went for a new playthrough using 2 handed crit build trying to stack highest damage output on a crit hit.
so i went half orc, lvl 9 barb, but each crit i only got 2d6 + 2d6 + 1d6 + 1d6 (both 1d6 is from half orc and barb lvl 9 )

however, if i use greataxe with same set up i would get, 1d12 + 1d12 + 1d12 + 1d12

shouldn't the greatsword be getting (2d6) * 4?

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Originally Posted by mardini
shouldn't the greatsword be getting (2d6) * 4?

Yes. Also, nice observation.

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The calculation of 2d6 + 2d6 + 1d6 + 1d6 is correct. Half-orc and Brutal Critical gives you an additional die, not an additional dice multiplier. Half-orc Barbarian is consequently the only build where greataxes have an advantage over greatswords.

That being said, in BG3 the unique greatswords will still probably be better overall.


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... yeesh, this is even correct ? I didnt expected that.

And this is definitely a HUGE advantage.

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Originally Posted by Halycon Styxland
... yeesh, this is even correct ? I didnt expected that.

And this is definitely a HUGE advantage.
It's not as big a deal as you'd think. A half-orc Barbarian with Brutal Critical deals on average 14 additional dmg on a greatsword crit, while a greataxe deals 19,5. Without additional ways to boost base crit chance, we're looking at 9,75% crit chance with Reckless Attack. Or simplified, 1,365 dmg per attack for greatswords and 1,90125 for a greataxe. So roughly +1 dmg on avg per turn (2 attacks). But this is also not factoring in that greatswords have an avg dmg of +0,5 compared to greataxes in their base dmg, so it mostly just evens out. If we have Great Weapon Style (for example in a Fighter multiclass), greatswords tend to benefit a lot more because of its 2d6 (1/3 chance to reroll) instead of a 1d12 (1/6 chance to reroll).

This is of course assuming regular weapons. In BG3, I don't think there are any greataxes that are as strong as the greatswords available at the same time. The Hellfire Greataxe is pretty neat (+2, +1d6 fire dmg), but also only becomes available at the same time as the Sword of Chaos (+2, +1d4 necrotic dmg, 1d6 heal on hit), Giantslayer (+3, double strength mod to dmg, automatic advantage against large or larger creatures) and Silver Sword (+3, +1d6 psychic dmg for githyanki). All of which are better weapons than the best greataxes.

A half-orc barbarian will in theory deal more dmg with a greataxe, but in practice that is unlikely to happen in BG3. Maybe a dedicated crit build can do it, but then you're potentially looking at a worse build than something more consistent.

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Well since the max level in this game is 12, you also need to consider support for 3 Champion, 9 Barbarian Half Orc builds. I thought there was a bow that reduces your crit by a further 1 that one would probably include in such a build.


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