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I have often thought about this and treid. But somehow in all of my play throughs it seemeed impossible to not romance Wyll. I swaer i nevcer notice when he starts to like my character.

I swear, even if i didn't flirt with him, i got the dancing scene in act 2. I always feel sorry for him if i don't romance him. But it seems to me like at somet point he starts to romance us, even if we are just being nice and helpful as a friend. I always have to break his heart at and spurn him at the dancing scene.

What triggers this guy? Did i miss something? Or is there a way tro not romance him sooner if you're not outright evil?

I wish that every romance had a specific dialogue trigger so that you could choose who you wanted to engage with in that way and would be left alone by the rest. Shadowheart has a dialogue option exactly like this. You will get no romance scenes with her unless you indicate interest first. Why not do this with everyone else? (LOOKING AT YOU HALSIN.)

To answer your question, most of the companions’ initial romance scenes will trigger as a matter of course and you don’t really have the option to avoid some of the initial scenes.

Yeah, so, the game wants you to Romance *someone*. So long as you aren't committed to one, the guys in camp will all pursue you from Act 2. It has nothing to do with how well they like you at all. If you 'miss out on one', you'll get the next one after you. It's super annoying. Shart and Astarion require commitment in Act 1, and will never offer after unless you went for them. Lae'Zel can be flirted with from... I don't know the Blightest Village onward until late Act 2, but Gale and Wyll come after you no matter what - unless you picked someone else.

Gale will give you an advance warning, about how battling monsters make him thirsty. If you ignore that, Wyll will literally come out of nowhere with his gay dance upon resting. The only way I know of to not get that scene is to sleep with someone else.

I believe Wyll's romance trigger is asking any sort of question about his dancing days. Not during the party itself, but rather the very first time he talks about his life after the Duke has been abducted.

Because even though I never flirted with him nor asked him if he wanted to dance at the party during my last playthrough, his scene still triggered in ACT 2. So I believe his trigger is asking him about his dancing days, though will have to test some more when I start a new playthrough.

I get the dancing scene from Wyll even when I chose Shadowheart in Act 1.

Yeah, no. On my honor mode run I was extra mean to him at the party (which he laughed off), never ever brought up dancing with him and the first couple of rests in act 2 he wants to dance... While being at just high approval (basically, ignored him for the most of the game, was just nice and extra jokey mean at the party - used the special tiefling line about being jealous of his horns) and that man still somehow got it in his head that he wants to court my character, who's romancing Astarion (yes again, I have a problem with the vamp boy).

I don't think there is a way to avoid Wyll's dancing, I thought it might've been tied to approval (like Astarion and SH) but nope.

The only way I have found to avoid his dance scene is to have both act 1 "romance slots" filled before entering the shadow cursed lands, otherwise he just gives it a shot - no matter your approval or what you talked about before. Personally, I think the scene only exists to make Astarion jealous and manipulate him into admitting that you are more than casual bedmates.

As for Shadowheart, I ignored the "we should get to know each other better" line for all of act 1, so she asked me out for a bottle of wine during the party and disapproved of not getting kissed in the morning. I thought, we were just having a friendly chat, Shart? ^^

I've been attentive to all lines with my companions, avoiding anything that even remotely resembles flirting. Will still asks to dance at night. Only Shadowheart and Carlach haven't tried anything. While it's been written about Karlach that she herself is being active towards Tav, perhaps she does have some triggers that set off "romantic behavior".

Yeah, some mpoeple nare easy to dodge before it's too late. My experience:

1) Lae'zel - as soon as she expresses to want sex with you, say No. She may be a bit bitchy for a moment, but accepts it normally.
2) Karlach - latest when she comes to wake you up at night, tell her you're not -that- interested in her.
3) Shadowheart - never was a problem since i refused the drink. Latest she stopped being interested as soon as i romanced someone else.
4) Astarion - pretty easy, i romanced him only once so far. Not letting him bite me and refusing sex at the camp party did the trick.^^
5) Gale - latest at the magic lesson scene say No. I always said i'm not interested if i didn't romance him. At the camp party, say you're not interested again and at some point he gets it.
And yes, i am well aware of that "OMG Gale moment" in Act 2. I romanced that man a few times.

6) Wyll? I didn't ask about the dance subject, i totally avoided it. Yes, even the mean dialogue options didn't work on him. I tried ignoring him and not even talking to him at the camp party.

But what i'm looking for is a trigger from Act 1 on, that may stop Wyll from pursuing me in the first place. But if that isn't possible, poor Wyll. Guess i will have to keep rejecting him at the dance scene. ^^

What does "having both act 1 romance slots filled" mean exactly?

Personally I love the thrills of battle talk - and Lae'zel's top tier Gith flirting. ^^


From my perception, you can have two romances active in Act 1. If those slots are filled, nobody will approach you anymore - or in case of Lae'zel she'll tell you that too many people have nibbled at you already and she doesn't like leftovers. In Act 2 you have to decide, which one you'd like to continue with. So if you, say, started romancing Gale and Shart in Act 1, Wyll won't approach you in Act 2.

LOl, ok.... so i take it that one is always the poor victim in act 2, getting spurned last minute.

I rather try to prevebt jealousy drama inthe first place. But i will think about that option. Thanks. ^^

Well, I've managed not to romance anyone in my dark urge run where I've tried to recruit Minthara. Maybe it depends on the approval score and when you have conversations with companions. The game kind of stumbles over that, because one act two DU scene is clearly written with a romantic interest in mind. If your character has no lover, it grabs the companion with the highest approval. This doesn't quite work, because approval means they like your character, but not necessary that you like them, so the scene ended being unintentionally funny.

Yeah, so if you're a one-lover, be prepared to "fight back". It's even funny though, such a "hidden quest" for the player's discernment, because some of the companions' courtships are somewhat veiled, and you have to be a bit "paranoid" not to get into anything even remotely resembling cheating I was even afraid to hug Karlach in the scene when she regains the ability to touch other people, although I wanted to do it in a friendly way.

If you’re romancing Karlach, you get the “kiss” option in that scene, so don’t worry, I think the hug is totally platonic if there’s no kiss option

Oh, thank you, we'll be able to take a "warmer" approach with her.

Please read my entrance post again: I was asking for ways to not romance Wyll if you're -not- outright evil. :P

Exactly, i spurned the poor thing latest when i got the whole "I wanna ride you till you see starts" scene in act 1. She didn't take the hug in act 2 romantic at all. ^^

I should have been more clearer, my character was not evil. Even with dark urge you can follow the good path, with some changes, but not enough to lose lots of approval from companions like Wyll, Gale or Karlach. Never got an offer to dance or anything from Wyll. I did rush with the saving the grove quest, though, because I wanted to recruit Minthara the new way. In shadowlands it turned out, the character with the highest approval was Laezel.

The only time where I've got an offer from Wyll was on my Gale playthrough. So I think it is a combination of what you say to them (e.g. with Gale if he offers to show you magic and you refuse) and how high is the approval at story points, like the tiefling party. Perhaps there is a specific dialogue option with Wyll too. With Gale, refusing to do magic together seemed to cool his advances.

I just remembered, my tiefling party bugged out on that run, and my character could not talk to anyone. So perhaps it is that with Wyll, when you comfort him when he stands alone during that party?

Same! If Astarion isn't the main focus of your adoration, you could always take him as a spare and dispose of him the Araj way "you need a friend not a lover". ^^;


The "I wanna ride you" scene very desperately needs cranky "That's what you woke me up for? Please, just let's get back to sleep - separately - and never talk of this again." dialogue options! XD Some people do need their beauty sleep to regenerate spell slots!

I agree.

I have no clue in my first run. Now I know I have to not dance to not romance Wyll. Similar with others. I have to avoid certain dialog option to not start (or stop) their advancement.