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Joined: May 2014
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Background:
I've beaten the game on Tactician. And I died 20 hours in on my HM run. I'm now on Act 1 on my third run (also HM). I went w/ the Dark Urge.
So, I got to The Grove and when I got to the area where the Druids are I accidentally clicked on a key. A tiny bird (literally, a bird) saw me and alerted a Druid. Next thing I see is a cut scene where some Druid beats down on a Tiefling. I get into a fight with the bird and two other Druids. The rest of the Druids run off and murder all the other Tieflings. At this point, I killed the 2 Druids (and tiny bird) that were fighting me and The Grove is totally empty. I go on to steal the statue thing that is protecting The Grove because I never tried that before.
Get outside of the Druid area and everyone is murdered. Even Wyll. I loot his body and use a Resurrect Scroll (that was on him) and he comes back to life as if nothing happened. I send him back to camp.
Then, I see Khaga holed up in the prison with some other Druids, who are showing up as red dots/enemies on my mini map. I attack them. IDK how, but at lvl 2 I manage to kill Khaga (84hp), as well as five other Druids, including Alfira (the Bard) and that one short merchant.
I have yet to speak with Minthara. I have the statue that is protecting The Grove.
Questions:
- I was attacked by the Druids (for accidentally "stealing" a key) before I got a chance to speak with Alfira. She is now dead as I killed her during my fight with Khaga. Does this mean I won't get the cloak for my Dark Urge character? I really want that cloak ...
- What the hell do I do next? I haven't spoken to Minthara yet and I have the statue. The Grove is now one giant poisonous gas now.
- Is there a way to still get the cloak and recruit Minthara?
- Anything else I should know? Like, did I lose out on some awesome loot? I'm OK with killing everyone as I wanted to do an evil run from the start (went "good" on my first run).
Sorry for the long post. Any hep would be awesome. Thanks!
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veteran
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Joined: Jun 2022
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- I must say the development of events in your playthrough are quite... interesting, but there's no need to worry because Dark Urge's camp scene has a failsafe incase Alfira cannot make it to the camp that one specific night
 - Unsure, but such is the beauty of the game. The story can crumble in any way.
- As mentioned there's a failsafe, so yup you'll get the cloak. As for Minthara I'm pretty sure there should be no issues recruiting her because even if the player entirely avoids the Grove she can be found at Moonrise. So the game will probably treat it as such.
- As far as loot goes Zevlor's unique Hellrider gloves which are the best gloves ever for Shadowheart and go all the way to ACT 3. Other than that there's not really anything else for an evil playthrough from the Grove.
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stranger
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Joined: May 2014
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First, thank you for the response! And yea, I don't mind the sequence of events — it is indeed the beauty of the game. I'm honestly shocked that I was able to keep Wyll and clear out both the Tieflings and Druids at level 2 (Gale also had no more spells left and it was two rogues and Lae'zel!).
I did manage to speak to Auntie Ethel before these events went down. So I imagine she will be at her cabin, ready to help me get right back up on my feet!! She is so sweet.
I did manage to rescue the little Tiefling from the Harpies ... I wonder what's going to happen to him once he finds out the entire camp has been slaughtered lol.
For an evil run, I'd say I'm off to a good start. I wonder what is going to happen once I cross paths with Haslin now ...
EDIT: In re: to loot ... any long term missable loot since everyone is dead? Thanks again, everyone!
Last edited by champy; 14/01/24 09:05 PM.
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journeyman
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Joined: Sep 2023
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(1) You stole the key that belonged to that bird and got detected - that's why the game put you on the path to a premature massacre.
(2) Which cloak are you worried about? No matter what you do, you always get a unique cloak from your butler.
(3) I wish your action had not brought death to Dammon. Otherwise, he could give or sell you a few unique items that are counted among the best.
PS - I forgot this: you have most likely also lost access to a powerful end-game ring, an extremely powerful end-game robe, as well as a few very useful items that would otherwise become available in Act 2/3. If I were you, I would probably just write off the 10 or 15 hours of gameplay and redo everything from the very beginning.
Last edited by Henry NYC; 14/01/24 11:59 PM.
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stranger
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Joined: May 2014
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(1) You stole the key that belonged to that bird and got detected - that's why the game put you on the path to a premature massacre.
(2) Which cloak are you worried about? No matter what you do, you always get a unique cloak from your butler.
(3) I wish your action had not brought death to Dammon. Otherwise, he could give or sell you a few unique items that are counted among the best.
PS - I forgot this: you have most likely also lost access to a powerful end-game ring, an extremely powerful end-game robe, as well as a few very useful items that would otherwise become available in Act 2/3. If I were you, I would probably just write off the 10 or 15 hours of gameplay and redo everything from the very beginning. This sounds like I'm getting chewed out for playing the game. I accidentally clicked on a key, which led to a tiny bird starting a massacre. Restarting my run completely defeats the purpose of HM. Things are not supposed to go as planned in HM; that is what Tactician is for. I'm just wondering what the items I missed lol
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Joined: Oct 2023
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Well i Would say to yu Bro..
Just Reset and dont Make any Mess this Time.. Play Safe always..
Becouse the deal is this.. Now that yu Screw the entire Grove and all of then are Dead..
Even if yu Side with Minthi/Goblins she will Turn on Yu becouse yu Screw evrything..haha
Yu can side with Her and Let her standing in Front of the Grove forever and go to act 2..
This way she will be there when yu get to Thorn Tower.
But Yu can no Longer side Properly with Any of then..
So Just Drop A F. and Kill both Sides and Go to Crech..
its your only option now that yu Cut of your entire Leg..
Becouse yu just dont Shoot on your foot my dude yu cut your entire Leg..haha
(i Actually Like this Route yu did.. But only when im Full Evil scumbag.. get it ?! becouse things will get Pretty Dark if yu keep going in this Way..haha)
I was using a Evil Gale first Time i did this Route..
And my Dude the game get super Dark..
I let the Last Light Fall, evrybody went in the Dark Path and i Become the God of Ambition..
(BTW i like a Lot More the older ending when Gale died in the hands of Mystra..)
Last edited by Thorvic; 15/01/24 03:16 AM.
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stranger
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Joined: May 2014
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Just for anyone reading this, turns out you do indeed get the Hellrider Gloves ... I just looted them Zevlor's corpse.
Thank you for the comment above! But your info isn't right.
Last edited by champy; 17/01/24 01:56 AM.
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Joined: Jan 2024
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A tip for your next run about the hellrider gloves
If you let Aradin or you knock out zevlor and then watch his group leave, you can loot the gloves off him consequence free and he won't even acknowledge they are missing when he wakes up.
As for the whole massacre situation.... yeah you may be missing out on some cool stuff but at the end of the day you're bound to find even more cooler stuff and depending on your classes you may not even need the rewards lost in this massacre.
If it makes you feel better, tensions were already running very high at the grove to the point of boiling over, so any misstep or small crime seen by the druids would be the straw that broke the camels back, yes even stealing from the bird.
Last edited by Herensuge; 17/01/24 08:41 AM.
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veteran
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Joined: Jun 2022
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Huh my mistake, I always thought the gloves were a pure quest item. Good to know for my future evil runs I also forgot to mention Mol's ring which provides +1 to AC and Saving Throws, not sure if that can be looted as well off of her.
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