Hello, I want to report a bug with Minthara that I encountered in three of my campaigns. I thought this was related to raiding the Grove, or a long rest, or maybe it was a mod-related issue. I went on to talk to other players but I wasn't able to identify the cause as there were too many variables.
I decided to do a thorough test for this bug with a new and unmodded save. I'd appreciate if the development team came to check on this and work on a fix soon, if they haven't already. I hope it helps some other people too!
The problem is:Minthara's dialogue options when you choose "I need to talk to you about a private matter"
disappear after you get a scene with Sceleritas Fey in Act 2.
Keep in mind, I recruited Minthara using the knock out method. I haven't tested this by raiding the Grove yet, but in my old save where I did, the dialogue branch is empty and I assume this is because I rescued her
after the Sceleritas scene.
- I first rescued Minthara and once she joined the party, I talked to her straight away. Here is how the dialogue branch originally looked (and should look):
- I long rested after rescuing Minthara and I got the Guardian scene. The next morning, the dialogue branch looks the same as the above. Nothing has changed.
- Then I long rested again, I haven't talked to Minthara about the urges yet. That night, I got the Sceleritas scene where he asks The Dark Urge to The next morning, the dialogue options for Minthara disappeared. They were no longer accessible. Why does this happen?
More testing below:I decided to install the OIO mod, which shows the tags/flag connectors for each dialogue option. Here is how the dialogue branch looks now, before Sceleritas:
And here is the tag (the only one) that shows up in the Sceleritas scene:
I have no experience in programming, but I suspect these two tags might have overrode each other or led to the same event in code so Minthara's dialogue options act as though they have been chosen - thus disappearing. This is all guesswork, but I can definitely conclude the Sceleritas scene is the root cause based on the test above.
To cast away any doubts, I tried recruiting Minthara
after I've gotten the Sceleritas scene in camp, and the dialogue branch is
completely empty the first time I talk to her. This is problematic as players who went through this route will
never see the intended dialogue options. This is very likely what happened in my old save.
Please investigate this, Larian. I shouldn't have to do this test to begin with, but I wanted to know why this bug (and Minthara generally) has been left unfixed for half a year now. How complex is her code, really? And why does the butler affect her dialogue?