Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Suggestions & Feedback QoL improvement ... adjust Origin characters, as protagonist.

So ...
I get that Shadowheart "is supposed" to be Cleric ... Wyll Warlock ... Karlach Barbarian ... Lae'zel Fighter ... Astarion Rogue ... and Gale Wizard ...
But honestly? I dont care.

Thats default setting, ok?
Lets start building on this cruicial fact: I-dont-care!

Meaning: If i pick any of them as my protagonist ... and decide to play them as anything else ... i will simply reset them as soon as i will be able to get Withers dryed out ass to my camp.

Now my question is: Why do you force me to play start of the game as their default classes?
I mean ... what is the point? :-/
I will reset them anyway ... wouldnt it be much more usefull for me to go trough most early parts of the game, including TUTORIAL (you know, that part where you are supposed to learn how to play the game) as the class that you actually ... i dunno, intend to play? :-/

So my suggestion is quite simple:
PLEASE Let us pick class of our protagonist, while we are creating them ... EVEN if they are Origin characters ...

Same goes for appearance by the way ... dont you think that just bcs you dont let me do that in character creation, i wont shave Shadowheart head later. :P

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I really wanted to try Shadowheart and Shadow Monk ... then i thought why not both ... but just the fact that im forced to start as another damned Cleric (yeah, you guested it, i dont like them either) leaves kind of sour taste in my mouth, especialy concidering how horrible Cleric "trickery" domain even is. -_-
If anyone can find some benefit from curent state, please let me know ... i would really like to hear it, cuz i was unable to find any ... benefit, or reason.

Otherwise, thanks for reading.

Agree with both points although it's def not a big priority for me. I'm not 100% sure why they made it so the magic mirror can't affect Origins. I don't want to change their appearances myself, but I've seen mods flying around to do just exactly that, and I'm unsure why Larian made this impossible unmodded. Is there... something problematic about it I'm unaware of? They let you pull a bunch of other wildly OOC stuff while playing as them, why limit what haircut they have and stuff? I can't imagine it affecting cinematics.

I agree, I'd like to be able to choose the origin class at character creation rather than waiting until I make it to Withers. It gets me off to a bad start when I have to discount all the things that happened in those first couple of levels.

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As for not being able to change the appearance of the origin characters, I'm not sure why that's an issue. In general, I accept it, but I don't necessarily understand it. I can't help but think there must be a reason.

You can do that in DOS2 I believe as well as customize companions “class” when you meet them. I also seem to recall magic mirror allowed you to customize Origin appearance as well but maybe that was a Mod. Kind of surprising the way they set it up for BG3. Lots about Larian I don’t like but I have always appreciated the flexibility they generally try to offer.

I assume what OP really wants is a customizable party...and *not* origin characters who have, well, a premade origin which is tightly coupled to their class and identity (Gale being the most obvious case). If you're going to simply throw that away, then you don't want to play an origin character - you want a character who's story you write *completely*. Incidentally, I don't recall past BG games allowing you to simply throw away the starting class of any NPC that joined - you could dual/multiclass later, but that base class was their prior experience.

Well, i dont want to call Larian lazy ... even tho that is one way to put it in single word ...

But if i would have to guess, i would bet that our Companions were modeled whole ...
Unlike our Tav, who is just set of varieties that can be put together in any order ...

In other words ... there is no Shadowheart Face, Shadowheart Hair, Shadowheart body, Shadowheart i dunno eyes ... there is only Shadowheart ... and that model (whole model) is lookig just as we see it.

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I honestly didnt even know that Mirror dont work on them, never tryed it ...
I just recently seen Wyll in some video with long dreadlooks and it looked great ... so i thought changing their hairstyle appearance would be at least one way to fresh my 85th playtrough.

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Well ... yes, but not in this case.

Maybe try to read/listen what people say, when they talk about what they want, rather than just asume?
Its usualy working, you can thrust me ... i tryed.

Im glad someone came here to tell me what i want ...
After all, its your head so how could i know, right? -_-

Seriously people ...
You dont like it > you dont do it ...
Nobody asked for moralyzing ... -_-

And even more to the point you are wrong:
No ... its not and that is the most funny part.

What is part of their story?

> Shadowheart worships Shar ... thats it ... is there anywhere in forgotten realms lore said that Rogue cant worship shar?
(Hint: No, it isnt ... quite the oposite, its clearly stated multiple times that Atheists practicaly dont exists in this setting, bcs people KNOW that deities are real.)

> Wyll made a pact with Devil ... thats it ... is there anywhere in forgotten realms lore said that Paladin cant have signed pact with a Devil?
(Hint: No, it isnt ... quite the oposite, its clearly stated right in THIS VERY GAME that "paladins" who were after Karlach had signed pact with Zariel.)

> Astarion ... well ... i would like to hear any arguments that makes him Rogue, bcs this bastard is clearly a Bard.

> Karlach have anger isues and some weird machine that keeps her alive (and yet is killing her) ... thats it ... is there anywhere in forgotten realms lore said that nobody besides Barbarians can get angry?
(Hint: No, it isnt ... quite the oposite, in THIS VERY GAME you can angry multiple NPCs that are not Barbarians ... among others, mainly Ketheric Thorm.)

And last but not least.
> Gale was a Wizard ... i believe you know how past tense works, do the math yourself.

Those are their stories, that were "tightly coupled to their class and identity" ...
Abything beyond that, is just your own lack of imagination.

Well ... since we are not playing, nor even talking about "past BG games" ... i dont see how is that relevant.

And even if we would, just bcs something "was certain way" it doesnt mean its "the only correct way and should never change" ... few examples from top of my head would be: Slavery, Witch-hunting, or Experimenting alive beings ...
Be glad humans can evolve beyond their past ... sometimes its a good thing.

One of my fav play throughs with Gale was imagining the orb made him a wild magic sorcerer. It was a lot of fun except for that awkward period at the beginning before meeting Withers when he was actually a wizard.

I also think Rag is probably correct as to why the appearances can’t be altered.