Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Story & Character Discussion Dream scenario of what could have been Act 3

So line of thought with Act 3 of Bg3 and I guess dream scenario?

We choose a side, Orpheus or The Emperor

Turns out Orpheus isn't as hostile once you free him and actually you know. Talk to him like a person. And killing his jailer, The Emperor proved that you just want to be rid of this damned parasite. And if you kill the Elder Brain you can kill all the parasites it generated.

This would also have to be along the lines of "player didn't use any mindflayer powers or consume any extra tadpoles" giving that choice of a playstyle a valid option.

From there, you get have to get the Orphic Hammer to fully free Orpheus giving you more reason to actually strike a deal with Raphael. You know it'll end bad, but you would be able to get the Prince of the Red Comet on your side. Go back to camp, through the now permanently open portal to the astral prism, free Orpheus.

Then you get a new permanent party member who you can actually interact with and get to know (and let's face it, romance. This is Bg3 horney gunna be horny)

From there nothing major needs to really change. The elfsong tavern isn't brought up but you could still explore it and find the stuff if you wanted. And then hey the Gith Ambush could be a romance flag for Orpheus if you bring him along? Mutual murder of an enemy, so hot.

Another change I'd make is in the House of Hope I'd add something like a heart for Karlach. Or maybe a "perfected" copy of her Infernal Engine. You'd probably need to find an infernal mechanic like say Dammon and bring him to the House of Hope after defeating Raphael and then boom Karlach's heart isn't about to fuckin explode.

The vampire ascendant ritual? Well hey Nightsong had a talk with Mother Dearest and in theory a reverse flow of positive (holy) energy could undo the Vampisim. After all, what's a small miracle like that for a Greater Deity like Selune? (Side note making Astarion a cleric would be fucking hilarious)

Then you could still give Astarion his life back (he's an elf. He's only something like 250 years old. He has centuries ahead of him yet) and hey the two characters that DIDNT get a happy ending can get one
Last major change I'd make,

Ansur.

If you side with Orpheus you could try to find a way to revive him. Like say through True Resurrection. So you go to the Stormshore Tabernacle Church and talk to the head priest. Unfortunately he can't help you there. But if you had a Cleric of Bahamut? Maybe someone level 10 or higher the boon you could beg would be to bring back Ansur rather than the permanent bless status.

Otherwise hey there is a scroll of True Resurrection in the game.

You uh. Just gotta kill Gale to get the letter with it is all.

But hey you could also just like. Talk to Gale? Be like hey buddy, did you happen to have a scroll of True Resurrection on you? Ya know, just in case of your whole orb dealy?

And depending on how friendly you were with him he'd be like "oh right yeah I do have that."

Or he'd tell you to fuck off or that he doesn't know w/e.

You go through all his steps and boom scroll of True Resurrection. (And then possibly just go to Withers and Rez him)

Back to Ansur, use the Scroll and he's back in full force. He helps you out in the final battle and all that. Maybe joins your camp as a dragonborn (that again you can sleep with. I mean shit you can sleep with Mizura why not)


Yes ,I've way over thought this

Yes, I know it'll never happen.

But its a fun "what if" kind of scenario thats been running around in my head for a while. I do dearly love this game but Act 3 just feels so rushed and slap chopped together. How we are forced to side with the Emperor until the very end of the game always kinda rubbed me the wrong way. And if we are going out of our way to fight the "super boss" Ansur and getting all this extra lore... it feels kind of like a slap in the face that we are just automatically assumed to be The Emperors thralls, especially when you've done a playthrough of refusing to use the mindflayer powers or use the tadpole at all

I wish Githzerai were more present in the game. Maybe Orpheus being Githzerai. Maybe it would be a revelation that he is a Son of the Comet, but he came to the conclusion that ways of Githzerai are the only way to move forward for Gith as a whole or maybe let us maybe somehow get Lae'zel to consider the perspective of Githzerai as maybe if we got to play Githzerai ourselves or maybe explore path of Zerthimon with her if we are any other race and maybe we want to have her become better and Orpheus could be the final push for that change. Just something with Githzerai.

This probably would have been a better choice point heading into the final arc. ( I also have a massive nitpick regarding the lack of my camp companions in the final arc, you're telling me they would not help out and be with the allies? no, that's dumb.) Taking sides would most certainly either lock you out of later choices with the brain, or force you to end up in another fight, as i can't see Orpheus being supportive of you dominating the brain and not destroying it.

In one of my playthroughs I did only enough tadpole stuff to kick off the dreams, but consumed no tadpoles at all, and did not take the astral tadpole (I have a fun collection of all the tadpoles i've picked up but not used), but this didn't really do anything in regards to changing my options. It would be nice if were offered some more approaches to the final arc.


If Orpheus is actually the direct son of Gith like Larian state, he's from a point around the Gith and Zerthimon major split, before the pact with Tiamat, where the difference between the two people was still philosophical, before a millennia of dogma and living in two separate planes. He'd still probably call himself a Githyanki (literally "followers of Gith"), due to his philosophy, but he's much closer to what the Gith were before their racial split.

I also wanted there to be more Githzerai, when the Gith monks showed up i thought they might be, as the Githyanki aren't as ascetic as the Githzerai and mainly produce warriors, not monks.

I just wish maybe we could have played a Githzerai. Then it wouldn't be so stupid that we have to be told basic stuff about Gith culture and maybe we could have deeper eventual connection with Lae'zel as we also teach her some things about Zerthimon. Be sort of a Dak'kon to her in some capacity... I JUST WANT TO BE DAK'KON DAMMIT!!! I know there is a mod for it, but you know... voice acting issues and reactivity and such... Not the same.