Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - General Where can I find proof that BG3 is not canon, and also need to find source of specific lore

Hello,

I am in a DnD westmarch server but unfortunately the server is making lore rulings based entirely off BG3 because they think it’s canon

Where are sources that can prove that BG3 is not canon, or at least has elements that aren’t considered canon

Additionally… I remember hearing about male Dragonborn being able to retract their penises into a slit. Where can this note or lore be found in-game?

canon to what, though? if the dm wants to use bg3 as inspiration for the campaign, it shouldn’t be much of a problem. different case if you mean the players specifically

good luck with the dragonborn thing

DM is Law.
As a big fan of homeruling, I'd eliminate Dragonborn from the setting.

bg3 is canon story... the fact that Larian has wizards of the coast on side proves that

what isn't cannon is the rule set larian used like how their multiplayer changes spells... thats total bullshit and not in any D&D rulebook but to echo others... the DM decides

Dragonborn and gentilas - don't seek reason where there is none. And never has been.
Look no further than oviparous Githyanki who have b00bies (females) and belly buttons (both sexes).

I mean technically... githyanki evolved(!) into oviparous. B00bies and belly buttons could well be explained as vestigialities.

As to technicalities - how can a Gith lay an egg the size we see in BG3? Are the layers first fattened up to be the size of owlbears?

I see it the same way, because recently appeared: Secret Lair: Dungeons & Dragons 50th Anniversary Superdrop

Thats simple. They just push, really hard.

P.S. As for the hatching part... not sure, but I heard those neogi rolls are pretty delicious, so fattening up seems legit. Enlarge can help some, as well?

Most of the mindflayer tadpoles after the introduction are also far too big to climb into anyone's skull

When I first heard of Githyanki being oviparous and having Crèches on the prime material plane, I must admit that I added it to my AD&D(2e) home campaign canon immediately. It didn't conflict with earlier material and made sense from the perspective that time doesn't pass normally on the Astral. This makes mammal-style pregnancy quite complicated indeed. According to Lae'zel, the Githyanki also choose who is becoming a mother (and probably fathers too) which would likely mean giving some of their best fighters, mages and other castes and classes several months off and producing less offspring since it has to fit a belly instead of having a whole hatchery to grow eggs. As for the size of the eggs, I guess they grow with the fetus which would also fit the iron bands having that organic look, as it is then magically grown along with the egg. Losing features like breasts and bellybuttons could easily be done by magic. Doing it through selection/evolution would take aeons and shift the focus from selecting their best to selecting those for who these features become vestigial. From how I understand the Githyanki, I can also easily see how keeping these mammalian features would be a matter of pride and distinction from mind flayers.

Belly buttons don't make sense even as vestigial. Unless each Gith also grows a random external placenta that needs to be severed upon hatching (This placenta would be doing literally nothing. Since there is no mother feeding nutrients to the feotus through it)...

Honestly, belly buttons on most fantasy races doesn't make a lot of sense, given the unique nature of human feotal development (Not all mammals have the same issue of a vestigial placenta that needs to be severed from newborns which creates the scar known as a belly button)

But they're often there, because the trope of other races just being "Humans, but..." thus being simply modifications of the default human form rather than actually unique races.


BG3 as an officially licenced campaign is canon.

However, the canon for DnD is irrelevant outside other officially licenced campaigns. As for home use, any materials are simply guides for players to utilize. Ultimately whatever the DM writes or utilizes, is what is canon to that specific campaign. Whether this is using source material to the letter, or heavy amounts of homebrew.

Thus, unless you're literally writing an official campaign on behalf of WotC, anything you want is plausible.

A sort of bellybutton was apparently found on a dinosaur named Psittacosaurus, one of the horned Ceratopsia family. The "umbilical scar" comes from the yolk sack attachment while inside the egg. I think I can see it in the Gorgosaurus illustration in the original AD&D monster Manual.

Thank you! I vaguely remembered reading many years ago that some oviparous species have these yolk sacks that can create bellybuttons, but the Wikipedia article only mentions mammals. Platypuses don't have bellybuttons.


Painfully true in many cases, but it actually suits Githyanki who once were human according to official sources.

i did not expect to learn so much about githyanki very enlightening thank you

Research can be fun! The Githyanki originally appeared in White Dwarf magazine issue #12 back in 1979, during the waning days of disco music. You can find the magazine along with many other original D&D materials on the archive.org website.

There is a difference in how spells work in single player and multiplayer modes?!?
Is there a thread about this?

i'm not aware of any but for example;

my level 4 character has 2 wizard and 2 sorcercer levels while your level 4 character also has 2 sorcercer and 2 wizard levels... we spot a scroll of magic missile and wonder why it uses Intel if i cast it but charisma if you cast it... if i host the game and a npc like Shadowheart uses it then results can change if you host the game and your Shadowheart uses it because Larian made Larian rules

bg3 story is cannon i.e, WotC say yes there is now another D&D Campaign set in the gate and Jaheria and Minsc are part of that story but to make it work in a computer game Larian made [and keeps changing] their own bullshit rules... thats why the game goes to shit with every new patch and why Mac players can't play with PS players because under the bonnet has different code

I really hate that Larian made dragon testicles canon. That’s just as cringy as Dragonborn boobs.