Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Story & Character Discussion Viconia?

I just encountered Viconia in my first playthrough and i can't say that i agree with the way she is portrayed in this game and her voice acting in BG3 is not even close to BG2.

I played BG games in late 90s and early 2000s, she used to be one of my favourite charcters, i romanced her in multiple playthroughs and if you were good to her she actually turned Good in the end so i dont understand this portrayal of Viconia in BG3, this doesnt make sense to me.

Also her voice acting is so different in BG2, she had a sexiest deep voice in BG2 and there were actually multiple lines about her divinely sexy voice in BG2, what we have in BG3 is not even close.

I doubt that this can ever be changed or improved in coming patches but i am just so disappointed, they ruined one of my favourite characters in one of my favourites game series.

There is a thread on this ... somewhere.
IMO the regurgitation of BG 1/2 characters in BG3 was a bad idea in general.

Considering it's hundereds of years since BG2, sexiness is not what I missed about Viconia (I am also more used to polish dub), but there have been some complaints about how her and other BG1&2 cameo were portrayed.

I didn't like either of NPC versions of returning companions, and I found them puzzingly misrepresented, considering that I thought they did a good job with Jaheira and Minsc. I would be curious how it came to be that Viconia and S ended up filling roles that they did.

In most of my BG2+ToB playthroughs Viconia and Sarevok ended up being Good and i dont know what to say about Jahiera, she seems a bit too casual and wierd (for the lack of a better word).

All in all nothing disappointed me in this game as much as the role of Viconia. I think we would have been better off with Mother Superior as a new character.

Yup. Take a gander at this thread:
https://forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=942738&page=1

First i was sad when i heard Larian saying that they will not work on further BG games but seeing what they did to Viconia, i think it might be actually a good thing because i dont want them to ruin the actual saga of original games just to make Larian origin characters or the new plot superior to the original.

This really put me off, i think going forward Larian should just stick with their own IPs.

Nau Nautha

Here are a couple other Viconia threads...

https://forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=890609

https://forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=903864

Jal khaless?

The titles had spoilers cause the characters weren't really being teased for the Full Release promos the way Minsc and Jaheira were. Not sure why, cause Viconia's a huge draw! For me anyway

It's too bad, I think Viconia would have been a fun companion for the Villains. Also it would have been pretty hardcore if Larian had been willing to kill off Shadowheart in order to allow Viconia on the team. Then Viconia could kill us at the very end and I would have found that to be a very satisfying Evil epilogue hehe.

I liked Jess Nesling's interpretation for the BG3 performance. We just didn't have enough time to settle in with her. Compared to the number of scenes that Jaheira got, we just didn't have those quality barks and banters.

Olath zha?

Grey is pretty iconic. Also has an incredible singing voice! Which would have been rad, just given how musical BG3 is. Like to see her come back for some sort of old time bard's cameo, but then she's probably very very expensive. Like I have to imagine that she would command all the party's gold and all the wisdom tomes to boot hehe. Basically like Hale status in the voice game, plus the gauntlets of strength. Still very much on all the animated shows. I can imagine scheduling conflicts or whatever probably being the main thing there for casting, although they did manage to get JK Simmons and Jason Isaacs, so who knows, maybe they could have pulled that off too? Her barks were always the best!

Nightsinger, give me power!

I dont think you can turn Viconia actually good ? You can turn Sarevok chaotic good, but the best you can do with Viconia is AFAIK true neutral. Also I think you have to romance her to archieve the later and I never did that, because she would leave the party once reputation crossed beyond 18.

I never figured out how to play BG2 properly as evil, or even neutral. My reputation always shot up to 20 very quickly. Murdering random innocents could bring it down but that was no fun at all.

Same here and since I prefer playing female characters, I never romanced Viconia, so she stayed evil in my games - I wasn't that surprised to have her evil in BG3 for that reason. Sarevok I once made good, but I never really used him in ToB, since by that, I have otehr characters levelled to my liking and used them more.

I get that people are sad if Viconia and Sarevok are their favourites and they put effort in getting them away from evil. Those two happened to be characters, I didn't use much, biut if they suddenly made Mazzy a serial killer or Jaheira a shadow druid for example, I would have been mad too. Though I do think, the possibility is always there when you worship Shar or Bhaal, since those two have a tendencie to mess with their followers a lot.
Still, it might have been better to leave them alone or make the tribunal judge an offspring of Sarevok for example and have the Sharran high priest be someone else and Viconia maybe an aquaintance of Shadowheart that makes a brief appearance (like Elminster with Gale for example).

I do think, I remember, that WotC made both of them caonincally evil again, but I blissfully ignored everything to do with Abdel Whatshisface, since I hated that my GW became canonical a human fighter, the most boring combination for me and I hate canonizing player characters (looking at you, Revan), so maybe someone more familiar with that timeline can confirm or correct me. Still, people liked their Viconia romances and having a redemption arc for Sarevok, so maybe I would have left them alone.

On the other hand, I fully expected Edwin to turn out to be Rolans new master, when playing early access.

BGs lean (and early Bioware games in general) very, very heavily toward good reputation, and if you are questing your reputation will skyrocket to 20 in no time. But no fear, the game gives you Ring of Human Influence after your first likely adventure for a reason. Put it on, and see all companion quibbles dissapear (that or create a high charisma character to start with).

While not exactly fixing a problem, I used to prefer playing BG2 with virtue mod, which split reputation into two: virtue was what your team thought of you, reputation is how the outside world saw you. So quest like freeing slaves would increase your virtue which would appeal to good aligned companions but mayhem you caused would lower your public reputation.

Eh, them being evil is not what I have issue with. If Larian decided that for their game there is a cannon to BG1&2 events, and Viconia and Sarevok end up being unredeemed that would be one thing. It's not even that they took them in an unexpected direction. There is simply no connection in my mind between characters from BG1&2 and those we meet in BG3 - outside the name and in the case of Sarevok apperance those are different characters parading as familiar faces.

Sarevok resurrected was dumb in BG2 already