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Hi,

As of Patch 7, I'm running into a problem with Counterspell.

Even when I upcast it to match or exceed the level of the spell the enemy is casting, I am getting "Failed Counterspell".

For example, the bane cultists cast blight (4th Level). I did a counterspell with Gale upcasting to fourth level. Counterspell didn't work. In the same round, I used Wyll's 5th level counterspell to counter the same spell. It also failed.


Is this a known issue?

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Hi

I used it a few times recently and it seemed to work fine.

If there anything in the combat log to say what happended?

Hopefully just reloading the game will fix everything.

Im guessing you dont have any mods that could be causing any issues?

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It's on and off. It's almost as if the game is forcing a spellcasting roll regardless of whether my counterspell is matching level or not. So sometimes it passes, sometimes it fails.

Unfortunately, the combat log is supremely unhelpful. All it says is that my character cast "Failed Counterspell". It doesn't even show a roll for spellcasting check though! smirk


I'm using Mystra's Spells, from the in-game mod store. But as far as I know it just adds some more spells rather then changing ones that exist.

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Originally Posted by silverace99
I'm using Mystra's Spells, from the in-game mod store
mystery solved but other things can stop a counterspell like standing in a silence bubble


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Yoda: That is why you failed.
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Mystery Solved? Is this a known issue with Mystra's Spells?

Also no, there was nothing like a silence bubble. If that had been the case I wouldn't even be able to cast counterspell; The spell is going off but it's failing when it shouldn't.

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Counterspell has never worked for me against Blight and now I"m on patch 8 with no mods and it still doesn't. Other spells fail at random as well, like you said, but Blight is counterspell-proof. Although I'm sure if an enemy tried to counterspell ME when casting Blight it would work just fine.

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It's worth noting that Counterspell's level checks against what a spell has been UPCASTED to, not the base level of a spell.

If someone casts a Fireball (3rd level spell) upcast to be a 5th level spell, then Counterspell will need to be 5th level to counter it (Thus, will require either a 5th/6th level spell slot or a Spellcasting Check to succeed)

So make sure to check the details of the spell to know if it is being upcasted (I.e. Check the number of damage dice it has. If a Blight cast has more than 8 damage dice then it has been upcast). Of course, for control spells it's impossible to tell if it has been upcast or not as there are no scaling dice values...

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I'd also suggest checking the dice logs if you think something's gone wrong - I often do that myself. I don't remember for sure if I've seen it for Counterspell, but if there was a roll required for Counterspell it will surely be in there - so you can work out whether you just failed a roll (and if so it should say what level of spell you were rolling against), or if there was indeed a bug or some other reason Counterspell just failed.


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