Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Story & Character Discussion I backtracked into Grymforge

I'm playing as Bernik Frozengrip, draconic bloodline sorcerer dwarf dark urge. He is very self-important and will do pretty much anything for power and money; he doesn't specifically like killing, but has absolutely no qualms about doing so.

We had just arrived at the Sharran temple in act 2, and Balthazar failed to admire Bernik's importance, so he decided to explore some more. We'd come over the mountain pass, so this was his first visit to Grymforge. I thought we'd end up siding with Nere, because evil, and there wouldn't be that much combat. But, that's not what happened...


There are two possible story bugs I'd say (although I understand you're not supposed to go this way so it's not really a bug). Minor one - people keep warning me about the shadow curse, and I can't just tell them I've got a moonlantern: I just say "I'm sure I'll be OK". More concerning, Withers is now telling me I'm too single. I have turned down Astarion and Lae'zel, and don't get along particularly well with Shadowheart. I'm hoping to get back together with Minthara, but haven't particularly started raising her approval yet. She's not with us now because she refuses to go back to act 1.

Is there any limit on when you have to start Minthara's romance arc? And is it normal that Withers chides you this way, since for any other character you're supposed to start romance in act 1? I wondered if it was a bug caused by going back an act, but it could just be that this is the first time I've spoken to Withers in a while.

Minthara may or may not be very grumpy with you when you return to the Shadow-cursed Land. However, should she be grumpy, you can win her affections back by donating all your trash ... I mean all your precious treasures to her through the barter interface. (You can later sell or use the stuff nomally.) I think the option to romance her only becomes available after defeating Ketheric, and the chat you can have with her after his demise can raise your approval enough to woe her. Iirc you need 30 approval and she will start the romance conversation. This can also happen in act 3. (I recently got it after defeating Orin.)

If you haven't picked any of of the main companion romances, Withers chides you and all your companions during their next attempt to reskill. (They have unique dialogue options if you make them chat with Withers, if you are curious.)

And yes, discovering the Grymforge from the Shadow-cursed Land is very unresponsive. The funniest inconsistency is if you proceed to the Myconids and then return to the forge. In my case it triggered the normal cut scene even though all the dwarves had long left. ^^

Thanks. Yes, I got one of the dialogues for Shadowheart, I think, because I sent her back to Withers to resurrect my lead character who'd been pushed into a pit. Not sure where the floating orb was, given the number of hostiles around me

Correction, it was Barcus Wroot who ended up dead in Grymforge. That's much less interesting for the story, but Bernik is very unlikely to bother to rescue Wulbren, so I guess we'll end up with the same result.

Poor Barcus. It would be interesting to see, what will happen, if Wulbren dies premature. I agree, that Philomeen would be a likely candidate to take over.

I'm planning a similar chaotic run with a duergar priestess of Umberlee, I think, I'll try aggroing the duergars before freeing Nere too, sounds funny. Her reasoning: they are stupid for working with this abomination of a cult.

It wasn't even supposed to be a chaotic run, more lawful evil. But they were very rude!

I mean, you didn't have another choice then. But tbh, apart from stonemason Kith, the duergar are pretty rude for sure.

"I don't like your attitude!" sums up the whole place - that includes you, Philomeen.

Can you be a cleric of Umberlee now or is it a mod? Last time I checked, I was disappointed to not see her on the list.

It's a mod, that includes all DnD gods.