ok found the issue for this, was running as admin was checked, so undid this and now a new issue, Required extension VR_KHR_surface not found in list of available extensions. I am currently going through options to fix this, will see if they work, validating files right now so after see if i can launch with DirectX first and see if it works or gives the same or different issue, will post back what happene. But the istall is new, the steam install still new, and the c++ was installed as well, so we will see, this is 4th day of failed launch.