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#957847 24/05/25 06:17 PM
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As a gnome, I enjoy full murder-hobo against the Druegar. Slaves? Executed gnomes? Sorry, you have 0 worth to me.

When you rescue Neer, he shoves one into the lava. There's no way to save her, or is there?

I hobo'd everyone outside, except my gnomies. Then I freed Neer. He then gets into the dialog where he shoves her into the lava.

Magic of time reversal! I have to kill him before this happens. I free him, then hit him with magic missiles. This doesn't kill him outright, but initiates combat while he's still deep in the cave. I then polish him off.

But Meerna is nowhere to be found. Her brother is sad, kneeling by the lava. Wth.

I will assume he's just insane, and that she's alive somewhere besides his heart. Another little thing that should be fixed but probably won't.

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But Meerna is nowhere to be found. Her brother is sad, kneeling by the lava. Wth.

Unlike many other "auto-deaths", this one I don't think you're meant to be able to prevent. Reason why I'm saying this is that there doesn't seem to be alternative dialogue or even a scenario where she doesn't die.

And the game usually has all those alternative versions covered... like for the dude being thrown to the spiders in the goblin-camp. Who *can* be saved (if you're quick enough) and I'm pretty sure he'll even thank you for saving his life. And that guy and his death are way more "obscure" than Meerna - took me two or three play-throughs to even realize he and his "death-scene" existed, while Meerna gets killed in a full-blown cut-scene.

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I saw someone on Youtube saving her, I think by finding a very difficult (or maybe hacked) way round behind the rock fall, and killing Nere before freeing him. And/or by clicking the Start Combat button in dialogue with Nere after saving him (move the mouse to the bottom left to show the buttons, I don't know how to do it on consoles). But as 1Sascha says, nobody notices what you did, and Meerna doesn't really have any lines either.

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Originally Posted by Trantion
I saw someone on Youtube saving her,

Yeah... I think I saw the same video. YTer with a pretty thick, Eastern European sounding accent, IIRC.


I think his conclusion was also that Meerna isn't meant to be saved and, like you said, there were some weird shenanigans involved to be able to "prevent" the death-scene. Technically it's probably more like "blocking" or even skipping the death-scene since story-wise she's clearly meant to die here.

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Originally Posted by 1Sascha
[quote]And the game usually has all those alternative versions covered... like for the dude being thrown to the spiders in the goblin-camp. Who *can* be saved (if you're quick enough) and I'm pretty sure he'll even thank you for saving his life.

On this same playthrough, I wanted to save Sazza when fighting Minthara. She always throws in with Minnie during the fight, though. Anyway, I found a route through dialog where she stays neutral. The only problem is everyone makes a beeline to kill her, which, at 12 hp, doesn't take much =D.

Playing solo didn't help, either =D

But I pulled it off. Sazza then takes the place of that guy for that incident on the bridge. (Later, I double checked, the guy never appeared, his body wasn't down with the spiders.)

So I manage to save her from being shoved to her death,
throwing an invis potion on her,
she is saved! Finally, at long last, the Save Sazza quest is completed, successfully.
I tried hill giant strength, no, still shoved. I tried anti-bludgeoning, nope! I tried false hit points, nope! I tried feather fall! Nope!

They dropped the ball on feather fall. You then could have had yet another emergency to save her from the spiders!


It makes me wonder if she wasn't the one originally designed for that bridge incident, and the other guy was the failsafe just to offer it for fun.

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